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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Everyone, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have a new question – this time about rotation symbols. In the lessons in signwriting book (maybe I should say bible <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😊</span>) forearm rotation is discussed starting on page 142. I am just having a hard time understanding how the symbols match with the actions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The problem is that I don’t understand what the arrows mean in the rotation symbols. I see that for example if the forearm points up, that is the wall plane and it is a double line. But if the arrow shows a movement to the right, what does that mean? Because technically the arm stays in one place and doesn’t move?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This is the set of signs that I am trying to understand: (S2df)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=945 style='width:709.0pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:73.0pt'><td width=59 nowrap valign=top style='width:44.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=49 nowrap valign=top style='width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=49 nowrap valign=top style='width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=52 nowrap valign=top style='width:39.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=49 nowrap valign=top style='width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=49 nowrap valign=top style='width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=49 nowrap valign=top style='width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=84 nowrap valign=top style='width:63.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=65 nowrap valign=top style='width:49.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=60 nowrap valign=top style='width:45.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=56 nowrap valign=top style='width:42.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=60 nowrap valign=top style='width:45.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=92 nowrap valign=top style='width:69.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=61 nowrap valign=top style='width:46.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=56 nowrap valign=top style='width:42.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=53 nowrap valign=top style='width:40.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:73.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'></span><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If I am describing these symbols can I say something like the following: (in all these symbols I understand we are talking about the right arm and it is in an upright position, pointing to the ceiling)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In the first symbol, the thumb moves from right to left and the palm first faces the signer and then faces the viewer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In the second symbol, the thumb moves left and down??? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In the third symbol, the thumb moves in a curve from left to right so that the hand is first palm out to viewer and then palm in to signer?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The fourth symbol looks almot like the third<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In the fifth symbol, the thumb moves left to right and the palm of the hand is first facing the viewer and ends facing the signer?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am really confused…..<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rachel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>
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