<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:24px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1517578632362_10634"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1517578632362_10662">I am unable to read any of Ms. Channon's symbols in her email on yahoo. Do they open better in gmail.com. </span></div><div></div><div> </div><div class="signature">Charles Butler chazzer3332000@yahoo.com 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward.</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 24px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:13 PM, "rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" <rchannon1@VERIZON.NET> wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5454751637"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv5454751637WordSection1"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal">Hello Everyone,  </div><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal">I have a new question โ€“ this time about rotation symbols.  In the lessons in signwriting book (maybe I should say bible <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji", sans-serif;">๐Ÿ˜Š</span>)  forearm rotation is discussed starting on page 142.  I am just having a hard time understanding how the symbols match with the actions.</div><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal">  </div><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal">  </div><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal">The problem is that I donโ€™t understand what the arrows mean in the rotation symbols.  I see that for example if the forearm points up, that is the wall plane and it is a double line.  But if the arrow shows a movement to the right, what does that mean?  Because technically the arm stays in one place and doesnโ€™t move?</div><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal">This is the set of signs that I am trying to understand:  (S2df)</div><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal">  </div><table class="yiv5454751637MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="945" style="width:709.0pt;border-collapse:collapse;"><tbody><tr style="min-height:73.0pt;"><td width="59" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:44.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:73.0pt;"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;">๑‹Žก</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;"></span></div></td><td width="49" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:73.0pt;"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;">๑‹Žข</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;"></span></div></td><td width="49" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:73.0pt;"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;">๑‹Žฃ</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;"></span></div></td><td width="52" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:39.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:73.0pt;"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;">๑‹Žค</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;"></span></div></td><td width="49" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:73.0pt;"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;">๑‹Žฅ</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;"></span></div></td><td width="49" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:73.0pt;"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;">๑‹Žฆ</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;"></span></div></td><td width="49" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:37.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:73.0pt;"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;">๑‹Žง</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;"></span></div></td><td width="84" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:63.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#DDEBF7;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:73.0pt;"><div class="yiv5454751637MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;">๑‹Žจ</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;color:black;"></span></div></td><td width="65" nowrap="" valign="top" style="width:49.0pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;backg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