<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I had just copied and pasted the image, so this time I saved it and attached it. Can you see it now?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="48F01ACE-D2C8-49CE-9FA6-99F935C7D91D" src="cid:FB31398D-D737-4C75-81D6-BBDFDE39FAAD@attlocal.net" class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 6, 2018, at 6:47 AM, <<a href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" class="">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</a>> <<a href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" class="">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I have been hoist with my own petard. Others have complained they cant see my symbols, now I cant see Adam’s… Adam, would you mind reposting your email with the pictures as screenshots? I think I should be able to see those (I hope). Rachel<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Adam Frost<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, February 05, 2018 10:17 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [SPAM] RE: Forearm Rotation or axial motion symbols<br class=""><b class="">Importance:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Low<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I have always been referred to as a man of few words. ;-)<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I think there is another sign without any “obvious” hinge like there is with DOOR. Take the ASL sign for 16. It could technically be written as either of the following.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><img id="canvasimage" src="data:image/png;base64,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" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">But if you were to ask a Deaf person which way the arm rotates, they will always say it twists outward rather than inward. So they would always choose the first writing. From a movement viewpoint, this is because the axial of rotation is actually closer to the thumb rather than the pinky. (The first writing has the movement focused on the pinky.)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">Adam<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Feb 5, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@MAC.COM" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">signwriting@MAC.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">SignWriting List<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">February 5, 2018<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I love the way Adam explains everything is half the words than I do...<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you Adam - keep teaching - it is an excellent explanation ;-)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Feb 5, 2018, at 7:02 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;" class="">From a purely movement symbol theoretical analysis view, both movements are the same. However, you are right that one has more of a focus on the thumbs rotation while the other has more of a focus on the pinky (or the baby finger as Val calls it). The reason for this is because it really depends on where the center of rotation takes places. With the sign for DOOR, the pinky acts as the hinge of the door. That is the reason the movement symbol that focuses on the thumbs rotation is always used.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">Adam<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;" class="">On Feb 5, 2018, at 6:16 PM, <<a href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</span></a>> <<a href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</span></a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Valerie, I’ve started looking through the lessons. Several times, I see the statement: imagine that you have black ink on your thumb or pinky…<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The problem that I have is that when the forearm rotates the thumb and pinky move in opposite directions. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In CLOSE-a-door, I start with my right palm facing left, and end with the palm facing the viewer. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The thumb curves OUT to viewer & LEFT. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The pinky curves IN to signer & RIGHT. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">So should I use this symbol, which moves to the right: S2df0c because that looks like the thumb movement:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><image006.png><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">OR should I use this symbol S2df08 which looks like what the pinky is doing?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><image007.png><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">And of course, the reverse question holds for OPEN-a-door:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Should I use this symbol, which moves to the right: S2df0c because that looks like the PINKY movement<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><image006.png><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">OR should I use this symbol S2df08 which looks like what the THUMB is doing?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><image007.png><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If I can choose whichever one I feel like, then it seems to me that I would not be able to say whether I was opening or closing the door. Am I thinking right?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If I am thinking right, then that is fine, and I will just list the rotation symbols as forearm rotation without trying to decide which way the forearm rotates. But if that information is there in the symbol, it would be good to capture it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Rachel<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, February 03, 2018 1:05 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</span></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [SPAM] Forearm Rotation or axial motion symbols<br class=""><b class="">Importance:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Low<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">SignWriting List<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">February 3, 2018<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Good Saturday everyone!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Yes, this is a fun discussion on Rotation Symbols.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We are having electricity problems in my home (where I work), and an electrician is on his way to help us. I do not know how long the repairs will take, but it may be all day, so I will not be able to answer or discuss anything until tomorrow, Sunday. I look forward to it!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">But one point while I can chat... We have some eLessons on our web site, teaching the Rotation Symbols in conjunction with other Curved Movements, and the eLessons use the wonderful illustrations by Steve Parkhurst (thank you again Steve ;-).<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If you go through each web page, and scroll down and read everything there, I think it might become clearer... Start with this web page:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less012.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less012.html</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(remember to scroll down)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">and keep reading through this web page:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less015.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less015.html</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">and then other web pages:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less026.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less026.html</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less040.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less040.html</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less041.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less041.html</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">and an important one:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less074.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less074.html</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It explains where to place the Rotation Symbols...above or below the hands? See screen capture below. This is related to the Pinkie and Thumb - but that we need another discussion for - There are rules for that too, but they are not posted in eLessons yet and I think they should be...<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Have a great day everyone!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><image001.png><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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