<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:24px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520594196417_33860"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520594196417_33859">I would agree with that. You are looking at climbing a hill away or toward you, it's not in and out which could be shown with alternating slashes and spots. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520594196417_33860"><span><br></span></div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520594196417_33736">Charles Butler chazzer3332000@yahoo.com 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward.</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 24px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:24 AM, "rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" <rchannon1@VERIZON.NET> wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv7245411342"><style>#yiv7245411342 #yiv7245411342 --
 
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#yiv7245411342 </style><div><div class="yiv7245411342WordSection1"><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">Ahah!!  So this winding path is going on a slant outward and winding RIGHT and LEFT not in and out?  THAT would explain why there are always bars or dots.    There is an overall slant outward for the ones with the bars, and an overall slant for the ones with the dots but what changes is the right and left plane.   </div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">  </div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"> So in the first one, I might be showing someone moving up a winding path up a hill.   In the fourth one, the same person is coming back down the hill toward me.   Do I have that right?</div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">  </div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">Thank you, Adam!</div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">Rachel</div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">  </div><div class="yiv7245411342yqt5739478734" id="yiv7245411342yqt82730"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages <SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Frost<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:42 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SPAM] wave diagonal path<br clear="none"><b>Importance:</b> Low</div></div></div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">  </div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">Actually, there is no going back and forth with these symbols. Imagine you have these symbols printed on a poster board that is based at your waist and going upward at a 45º angle. So for the first symbol, you would be moving along a “windy road going uphill” sort of a path.</div><div><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;"><br clear="none">Adam</span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:49 PM, <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" target="_blank" href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</a>> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" target="_blank" href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</a>> wrote:</div></div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">  </div><div><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">Hello again everyone,</div></div><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal">Today my question is about the wave diagonal movements.  They look like this:</div></div><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"> </div></div><table class="yiv7245411342MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="807" style="width:605.0pt;border-collapse:collapse;"><tbody><tr style="min-height:107.0pt;"><td colspan="1" nowrap="" rowspan="1" valign="top" width="83" style="width:62.05pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:107.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;">񊎁</span></div></div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" width="62" style="width:46.85pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:107.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;">񊎂</span></div></div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" width="23" style="width:17.5pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:107.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;">񊎃</span></div></div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" width="48" style="width:36.3pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:107.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;">񊎄</span></div></div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" width="48" style="width:36.1pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:107.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:SuttonSignWritingOneD;">񊎅</span></div></div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" width="48" style="width:36.3pt;border-top:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #9BC2E6 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:107.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv7245411342MsoNormal"><span sty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