<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">November 13, 2018</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for informing us of these important projects, Steve. These are difficult projects, but badly needed. There are also other projects that have attempted live translations between signed and spoken languages in the past. I will be posting more about these older projects later today if I can - Meanwhile these new projects deserve our attention and support - We all are in need of funding, so if anyone has ideas for places to write grants to, for funding software development, please tell us - Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">----------<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 13, 2018, at 10:13 AM, Stephen Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET" class="">slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Someone
asked us "has there been any substantial work to make real-time
translation of sign language possible with technology in a
bi-directional way."</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system,
BlinkMacSystemFont, ".SFNSText-Regular", sans-serif;
caret-color: rgb(29, 33, 41); color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-size:
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Interestingly
enough, we recently spoke with two different groups participating
in the efforts for the translation of sign language in real-time
and bi-directional. I've been meaning to share, so here they
are...</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; display: block; font-family: system-ui,
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</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; display: block; font-family: system-ui,
-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, ".SFNSText-Regular",
sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(29, 33, 41); color: rgb(29, 33, 41);
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto;
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
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text-decoration: none;" class="">The first project is a team:<span class="text_exposed_show" style="display: inline; font-family:
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<a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Ffeed%2Fupdate%2Furn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6452466939943055360%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR18TMXU7a6c8y5sRKE0xuVsN6J7H4PkBy1enR_nELs153ChTufQZHR_QOg&h=AT3E6D0Dgyo8sNLCf2dBLdcZf9iR1vJh-O3KmuGklfUH0AhC3nvwZK182Iyw7iFolMqSLOH2_Ojcb_DY9tYJf1CcuaJv2xi-wxIiqo3QRp2MX-olqOzevNCibywVz26i7DNRBLlaFFIahBG77Ql9Qzgx" target="_blank" data-ft="{"tn":"-U"}" rel="noopener nofollow" data-lynx-mode="origin" style="color:
rgb(54, 88, 153); cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;
font-family: inherit;" class="">https://www.linkedin.com/…/urn:li:activity:645246693994305…/</a></span></p>
<div class="text_exposed_show" style="display: inline; font-family:
system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
".SFNSText-Regular", sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(29,
33, 41); color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-size: 14px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><p style="margin: 0px 0px 6px; font-family: inherit;" class="">"Had an
amazing time at hashtag#startupweekendsingapore and placed
second as a team. Very thankful to be with Jerry Tan Si Kai,
John Goh, Hyunjung Kim (Cathy Kim), Xinwei Huang. We prototyped
Outspoken to translate sign language to text/speech, which can
potentially benefit those with hard of hearing to use sign
language as their first language to express themselves
confidently and comfortably. Also thanks to the help of mentors
and friends Mark Lven Palejaro and Albert Puah. SWSG Mega is a
very well organised hackathon (and imo has top-notch design) and
brings the best experience for all!"</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="82CBEB4D-F744-40EC-851A-A0A0E0407E8F" src="cid:part2.B503D477.113D391A@signpuddle.net" class=""></p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">They know about
SignWriting, but they currently use spoken language text, rather
than sign language text. Their focus on machine learning has a
lot of potential when applied to SignWriting text.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">The second
project is an academia group with dissertations, thesis, and a
starting infrastructure. Their central concept is CORE-SL, a
linguistic structure for defining sign language. They have
mapped out their system which includes real-time and
bi-directional processing. These future subsystems depend on
their core structures. Their next PHD thesis defense is coming
next month I believe.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">Link for the PhD
thesis with the formal language to represent SL:<br class="">
<a href="https://acervodigital.ufpr.br/bitstream/handle/1884/41015/R%20-%20T%20-%20DIEGO%20ROBERTO%20ANTUNES.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y&fbclid=IwAR2aiFPza59RiFSuX0pT95YumeJtGAeKWAa75AD2g6RnZIVoy1KcudWnDR8" target="_blank" data-ft="{"tn":"-U"}" rel="noopener nofollow" data-lynx-mode="origin" data-lynx-uri="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Facervodigital.ufpr.br%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F1884%2F41015%2FR%2520-%2520T%2520-%2520DIEGO%2520ROBERTO%2520ANTUNES.pdf%3Fsequence%3D2%26isAllowed%3Dy%26fbclid%3DIwAR2aiFPza59RiFSuX0pT95YumeJtGAeKWAa75AD2g6RnZIVoy1KcudWnDR8&h=AT2Bp5aeojuWQ_XucL4jCqFXdAmN1eCC4-0ZI1CKY7B79hvl8mXvInXd6Yq26ZSyb7rCzgfl22FoRWUzGdk8qRkNRP9BZOhgBnQPlGBu8fMejmAMR1RRVJrEOTZU40FbihL3zN7rXmImg36IWnWxBS3U" style="color: rgb(54, 88, 153); cursor: pointer;
text-decoration: none; font-family: inherit;" class="">https://acervodigital.ufpr.br/…/R%20-%20T%20-%20DIEGO%20ROB…</a></p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">Link for a paper
about the transcoder SLrepresentation - SW (thesis not defended
yet)<br class="">
<a href="http://www.br-ie.org/pub/index.php/sbie/article/view/8061/5752?fbclid=IwAR14VKsQRP3rLj6xhe5ehz4VObVBkYRwLeLbA7CdgS7R02JpuXQXBB8xHJw" target="_blank" data-ft="{"tn":"-U"}" rel="noopener nofollow" data-lynx-mode="origin" data-lynx-uri="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.br-ie.org%2Fpub%2Findex.php%2Fsbie%2Farticle%2Fview%2F8061%2F5752%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR14VKsQRP3rLj6xhe5ehz4VObVBkYRwLeLbA7CdgS7R02JpuXQXBB8xHJw&h=AT0A5dbxXUaES1GYyGIk29YpyetVNKGVdOqQjG765LrsTxIgJNPFH2udI9HPYE2-Ujq-TO-wf05c9foYvf2hErI-k7ArULsP3wyBPiHmtS4uXexlmSdxUt3Z5KZbY-j86QbeECDL6UIDq-i3UW-AWBcOjSSPsRgj8OJZhA" style="color: rgb(54, 88, 153); cursor: pointer;
text-decoration: none; font-family: inherit;" class="">http://www.br-ie.org/…/index.php/sbie/article/view/8061/5752</a></p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="7EB839E2-65D0-4129-BFC1-34F3AB938347" src="cid:part5.8EAC47B3.A92D4288@signpuddle.net" class=""></p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">I believe the
CORE-SL model has many similarities with the SignTyp linguistic
model by Rachel Channon. These models serve different purposes
and have a few key differences.<br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://signtyp.uconn.edu/">https://signtyp.uconn.edu/</a><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">Regards,</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">-Steve<br class="">
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