<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">May 2, 2019</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, thank you, Adam, for the great diagram in the previous messages and it is pasted below I believe too ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regarding Wrist Circles, in Question #1 below:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rachel, your English descriptions of S2ed and S2ef are correct.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The darker section of the Wrist Circles shows movement "towards the body or chest". The lighter or skinnier section of the symbol shows movement "away from the body or chest". When the hand is above or below the chest, like in the sky above the head, or on the floor as you say, it is still the same movement, still relating to the same planes in space... The darker section represents the "back part of the circle" and the lighter or skinnier section represents the "forward part of the circle". Everything is based on relating to spatial planes. There are a lot of technical terms we could use, but we tried to stick with forward or back.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So I have answered your question 1 ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will get to your Number 2 question soon - sorry I am always being pulled away from my computer -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-----------</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 1, 2019, at 7:51 AM, <<a href="mailto:00000018ddb4db4a-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">00000018ddb4db4a-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> <<a href="mailto:00000018ddb4db4a-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">00000018ddb4db4a-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Adam that’s a great picture and confirms my understanding. Thank you!<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Now I have a new question, and since Valerie hasn’t had enough time yet to answer my second question, I will repeat that here as the last question here so you don’t have to go looking through old emails.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Wrist circles<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If I extend my arms straight out in front of me and draw a circle with my index finger on the window (the front wall) then the wrist circles are in the front wall plane, and I think I would use a symbol from this set:<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><img apple-inline="yes" id="7A613E21-5A67-4FC7-BD05-7B217B2982DB" src="cid:image005.png@01D50006.C8EFF330" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">My problem is that I am not sure of how to interpret the symbol set for S2ef:<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><img apple-inline="yes" id="D865517F-E9DF-41E1-A2FA-012A4ACDFFC3" src="cid:image002.png@01D50005.B0BA3F10" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If I place my right arm parallel to my chest and circle the wrist so that my finger draws a circle on the left sidewall, would I use the symbols in row 0 to 3?<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><img apple-inline="yes" id="84334E0A-11DD-4749-8253-AF598F5BDEA8" src="cid:image006.png@01D5000B.D0359370" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If I raise my right arm above my head to point to the sky and draw a circle on the sky (or stoop down and draw a circle on the floor), or sign ALWAYS in ASL, would I use the symbols in rows 4 and 5? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><img apple-inline="yes" id="138594AD-394B-427B-B4BB-C6214A15F86A" src="cid:image007.png@01D5000B.D0359370" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><ol start="2" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Here is my last question, repeated from my previous email:<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If I want a path that slopes, then I would use one of these symbols:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="98E3A924-71D1-47AE-B4F9-5FB69DA6CE2E" src="cid:image001.png@01D50005.2508FC40" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I interpret the first symbol in this set (S2B400) as:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The hand moves upward and sloped toward the horizon (the path starts low to the ground and rises as it moves away from the signer), while at the same time curving right and left, as though you are watching someone walking away from you up a curving mountain path.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Have I interpreted the symbol correctly?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Adam Frost<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:40 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [SPAM] RE: Questions about signwriting symbols with curving paths on sidewall<br class=""><b class="">Importance:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Low<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Here is a graphical representation of what that symbol mean. ;-)<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="7ADBF619-C886-417F-957A-6EDFFE6898DF" src="cid:image003.png@01D50005.B0BA3F10" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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