<div dir="ltr"><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-89990842-7fff-3484-5109-80bfad0301ce"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Hello Valerie,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">In fact, my intention is to keep focusing on SignWriting. In a few occasions there are hand signs that are very difficult to read, due to their particular orientation. Only in those occasions I would like to put some illustration to clarify how the hands are.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">I am posting an example of what I am willing to do (left side is IS, right side is LIS)</span></p><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse;width:589.606pt"><colgroup><col width="7"><col width="*"><col width="*"><col width="*"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:0pt"><td style="border-bottom:1pt solid rgb(0,0,0);border-top:1pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle;padding:1.41732pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:center"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Libre Baskerville",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/qmBoYcjrh9o3JgaScyS8y82C8mFV7bfTUsksDSap26ogeu1RT06xv2bTDBtmGwBkQr0jOUYTuvy8x1HMFKQF0Ov5UP_IK-apYTbvN8fKwHt1pTxXqWSAtpU0xU4jrLxsXZeK61YR" width="1" height="100" style="border: none; transform: rotate(0rad);"></span></p></td><td style="border-bottom:1pt solid rgb(0,0,0);border-top:1pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle;padding:1.41732pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:center"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Libre Baskerville",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JN5cZU2i1eoMiMhbidM0IG0XW9frykGJuiP7mtLSSkz5GPYDIpQNja9TGn0I9k5kqBvUrk8tkRqqQVk-FS3XNIryNedIpXx7ScwuVZCzR4P1B6pk7o5ci-GQbZkTVSsrAq1Md211" width="92" height="43" style="border: none; transform: rotate(0rad);"></span></p></td><td style="border-bottom:1pt solid rgb(0,0,0);border-top:1pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle;padding:1.41732pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Libre Baskerville",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">many (countable), 𝠃𝤴𝤜񁲁𝤝𝣽񁲉𝣘𝣼񈗣𝤐𝤉񈗷𝣮𝤊񆹕𝣛𝣱񆹕𝤠𝣱</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Libre Baskerville",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">molti, 𝠃𝥀𝤠񂽱𝤈𝤅񂽹𝣭𝤅񆉁𝣩𝣬񈙇𝤢𝤅񈙓𝣌𝤆񆱵𝤉𝣸񆱵𝣨𝣸񆉁𝤊𝣭񋸥𝣿𝤚</span></p></td><td style="border-bottom:1pt solid rgb(0,0,0);border-top:1pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:center"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Libre Baskerville",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5z3EzFal8Xcn3e9TNNBgXRw5W-r6laUTyXC2qt4OKzN330bxk8wGnKmEL9nH--5ry-DMVi8zBwajLZyC8EnT44zI2UMyFlB-LjjLsvMFWkBMq1DMm_TWm538pxjbneJHdDnWYmMW" width="116" height="52" style="border: none; transform: rotate(0rad);"></span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:center"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Libre Baskerville",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/LgqsRpkbdBbn8EPvR_nIRMcqQdbBlxhqCB2_8kLWucKwsA_THnGxT6QjWuZFCu9dwmYL0nmr7XQv0IIuilH1GvE_cKs7FU34UoMyFEYzL6SIt2G89Iis5nEMv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ll organizations that are categorized as "non-profit" or "charity" have to submit four government forms and the deadline is May 15th... silly but I am behind on these administrative preparations. So after May 15th I hope to have more time and maybe we can chat about your amazing developments.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for sharing with the List and I am sure a version of your work using photos will be helpful to many people too -</div><div><br></div><div><img id="gmail-m_-1795360544456848651639E9CA8-FDCF-48D2-9413-594F0D93B8FD" src="cid:16a799c49b997c3f3161"></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 2, 2019, at 1:46 AM, Daniele Giacomini <<a href="mailto:appunti2@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">appunti2@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_-1795360544456848651Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><span id="gmail-m_-1795360544456848651gmail-docs-internal-guid-fd475c73-7fff-18e8-11bc-e9cdc0bf7471"><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;font-size:12pt;white-space:pre-wrap">Hello.</span><br></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;font-size:12pt;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">I apologize if this request email is off topic in the list. However, I thought to ask and announce what I would like to do in the <a href="https://sites.google.com/view/daniele-giacomini/is-lis-notebook?authuser=0" target="_blank">IS-LIS Notebook</a> I am working on.</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">There are some hand positions that, in my opinion, using SignWriting might not appear very intuitive. I would like to put, beside some SignWriting drawings, also a the corresponding hand pictures, to help the reader. My idea is to reuse some pictures (of the hands) contained in the work that I mentioned in the subject, also modifying then, provided I get the permission of the authors.</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The document I am working on is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International license, and I would obviously put references to the source of the hand pictures.</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Thank you for your attention.</span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Quattrocento Sans",sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Daniele Giacomini</span></div></span><br class="gmail-m_-1795360544456848651gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div>
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