<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">There might be some wrist flexing when making the sign for 22, but it isn’t really necessary. In fact, most instructional materials teaching 22 don’t show any wrist movements.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When we were discussing the movement, the first suggestion was to write a zig-zag movement like below, but then it was countered because the second point “shouldn’t be so sharp, but more of a curve.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&bound=t&ksw=M9x16S24504n9xn15" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Then the symbol below was suggested, but "the first bounce should be cut in half to match the movement."</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&bound=t&ksw=M21x7S2930an20xn7" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I tried to construct a small straight down movement connected to a single curve, but it wasn’t working well. That is when the single curve offset from the center somewhat came up. It seems to work, but I just wanted to make sure. ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">

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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 8, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">August 8, 2019</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hi Adam and everyone -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for sharing these questions with us -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope you all will put in your opinions - this is an interesting topic -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have a question - Is there wrist motion like the sign for YES in the sign for 22? Is it like a "traveling YES"?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The original writing with the three arrows was a compromise - it avoided writing the actual Wrist Movement Symbol, but still gave the feeling of "down-down" while it was traveling side</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If wrist motion is not necessary - or if it is there but no need to write it to understand it - then the curve is fine for me - but for me it gives the "feeling" of a curve, not "down-down" from the wrist</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">what do you feel when you look at those arrows? and is it necessary to write the different feelings?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">----------</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 8, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I was teaching how to write some signs when I came to a very common movement in ASL: down-right-down. An example of a sign with this movement is the ASL number 22. Here is how this movement has been traditionally written.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=AS10e50S26606S22f04M18x28S10e50n18xn28S26606n12x1S22f04n16x14&pad=10&name=22" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I was teaching this writing, my student asked why there has to be three arrows when it is a single (and very common) movement. This lead to a discussion of possible ways to write it. This is what was proposed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?ksw=M18x24S10e50n18xn24S2890an11x9" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I thought it was interesting that the placement of the curved movement almost implies an initial small downward movement. What are your thoughts on this writing?</div><br class=""><div class="">

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