<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Ok. This is good to know. ;-)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now for a little background before I explain my conundrum. (Ha!)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I write by hand, I generally shorten it by only writing the right hand’s movement and then using these timing symbols — first 3 actually — to explain what the left hand is doing. For the most part, this has worked fine for me. Then I tried to write a few different verb agreements for “repetitively sending”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There is a version of the verb “to send" that uses the alternating movement of both hands which can be used to explain the actions of a professional mover placing various furnitures into a moving van. For this, I used the “every other time” symbol.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?ksw=M53x34S2fd04n29x28S14c5727xn31S14c59n21xn34S26a17n37xn8S26a0712xn9S20329n52x6S20327n3x5" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I read my writing, I wasn’t sure if it was the above described sign, or another version of this “to send” verb that means to sort various objects into two different locations.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?ksw=M61x33S2fd04n11x27S14c5735xn32S14c5fn60xn31S26a11n38xn9S26a0720xn10S2032fn25x4S203275x4" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I wrote the full version with the left hands for both. Notice that removing the left handshapes and movements would make these both written the same.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This lead me to wonder what the writing would look like if the movement wasn’t alternating or “every other time”. Both are possible versions with this verb.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This writing would mean to repeatedly put objects into the same location.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?ksw=M53x34S2fb04n24x28S14c5727xn31S14c59n21xn34S26a17n37xn8S26a0712xn9S20329n52x6S20327n3x5" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And this writing would mean the same as above but into two different locations.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?ksw=M61x35S2fc04n7x24S14c5735xn35S14c5fn60xn34S26a11n38xn12S26a0720xn13S2032fn25x1S203275x1" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So I guess those would be clear if I were to only write the right hand with the timing symbols. I’m not sure how I would make the first two clear while only writing the right hand and the timing symbols.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 14, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">August 14, 2019</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello Adam and SW List members -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for this question. Yes, the definitions you list are the more recent definitions which I believe are clear. It is confirmed that they are correct.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Years ago, I called them "Movement Dynamics" in the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook, on page 183. Attached is a screen capture of that page from the book, plus the sign for FEW in ASL that is an example of the Gradual Movement Symbol, which is like two miniature SLOW and SMOOTH symbols placed between two positions, to mean "gradually moving into the next position". The Gradual symbol is always small between two positions.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:AADF9DCD-DA6C-4CBC-9411-FA5219760850@san.rr.com"><FEW in ASL.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:1946634E-2C4F-42DF-AC0B-6E91348641FC@san.rr.com"><Movement_Dynamics_Lessons_p183.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I just wanted to confirm the definitions of these four symbols. (I have added the image below for reference just in case people can’t read the font.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="cid:9E1E70BF-FFD1-4738-8FCD-C9A2396DF7D4@home"><Image 8-14-19 at 8.29 AM.jpg></span><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. The ISWA 2010 Reference calls this “Same Time”. This means that both hands travel along their path simultaneously.</div><div class="">2. The ISWA 2010 Reference calls this “Same Time Alternating”. This means that both hands travel along their path simultaneously in opposite directions.</div><div class="">3. The ISWA 2010 Reference calls this “Every Other Time”. This means that both hands travel along their path while the other hand isn’t moving. There is no distinction to moving in the “opposite direction” like the previous symbol.</div><div class="">4. The ISWA 2010 Reference calls this “Gradual”. This means that the change from one handshape to the next has a flowing change rather than an immediate change.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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