<html><body><div>SignWriting List</div><div>January 15th, 2020</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Thank you for this positive message, Mark. I have printed it and placed it near my computer to keep my spirits up! Wonderful to know that SignWriting is useful ...</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Keep asking questions here on the SignWriting List - It helps everyone - we all learn from each other -</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>--------------</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br>On January 15, 2020 at 3:48 PM, Tuệ Đinh Cao <dinhcaotue03@GMAIL.COM> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote"><div><div dir="auto">Thank you very much! 😊😊 Personally, I find Signwriting is a very inspiring creation because it gives the deaf community a tool to express themselves truthfully and confidently through writing. While Signwriting’s learning curve is steep and there are many other ways to copy signed languages down on paper, Signwriting, I feel, breaks from the confines of a so-called “linguist lab” and to more deaf communities around the world, perhaps due to the number of materials that people can use to study Signwriting as well as its visual impact. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div><img src="cid:d9320745-2294-43bf-aaeb-911a40ddb76c@icloud.com"                                                                                                                                                                                style="max-width: 100%;" data-inline-image="true" class="_auto-scale " data-mce-src="cid:d9320745-2294-43bf-aaeb-911a40ddb76c@icloud.com"                                                                                                                                                                                data-mce-style="max-width: 100%;"></div><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Vào Th 5, 16 thg 1, 2020 lúc 7:00 SA Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" data-mce-href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> đã viết:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>SignWriting List</div><div>January 15, 2020</div><div><br></div><div>About Cursive Writing ... or SW Handwriting ... or SW Shorthand (wink back, Adam ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>The reason we are smiling at each other is because we used to work with a separate writing method called SignWriting Shorthand versus SignWriting Handwriting, but in recent years the two seem to have blended and people are writing as they wish ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Adam's presentation in 2014: "Ways to Write Sign Languages by Hand with SignWriting" is excellent. If you go to this web page, and scroll down, there is a video, and a PowerPoint showing how Adam writes by hand: <a href="https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0003.html" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0003.html">https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0003.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>And thank you Adam for pointing out that you have Handwriting in these Facebook lessons:</div><div><a href="https://www.facebook.com/SignWritingLessonsWithAdam/" data-mce-href="https://www.facebook.com/SignWritingLessonsWithAdam/">https://www.facebook.com/SignWritingLessonsWithAdam/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Very nice! Those are great lessons. I hope you all check that out...</div><div><br></div><div>So Mark, and everyone, here are links to some old web pages. Do you remember that I taught a course online on SW Handwriting in January 2007? That is 13 years ago! People did their homework and it went well. Their homework is posted on the web. You can download the workbook and take the course on your own any time:</div><div><br></div><div>Write SignWriting by Hand</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/</a></div><div><br></div><div>SignWriting Handwriting Course 2007</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson101.html" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson101.html">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson101.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson102.html" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson102.html">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson102.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/symbols.html" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/symbols.html">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/symbols.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Handwriting workbook based on the above lessons:</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs5/sw0473-US-SWHandwriting-Lesson1.pdf" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs5/sw0473-US-SWHandwriting-Lesson1.pdf">https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs5/sw0473-US-SWHandwriting-Lesson1.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>You can even look at other student's homework to see how they wrote in their workbooks...</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson103.html" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson103.html">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/lesson103.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>People did real well -</div><div><br></div><div>So Mark, between Adam's lessons and my 2007 course on the web you have something to study.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you, Mark, for your 1000s of entries in the Singapore Sign Language Dictionary in SignPuddle. You have done a great deal of work and it is inspiring -</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:ed32e8b8-d1fe-4a16-8205-45f9a30bf7c0@icloud.com"                                                                                                                                                                                                                 alt="Valerie Sutton Name Sign.png" title="Valerie Sutton Name Sign.png" style="width: 26px; max-width: 100%;" data-inline-image="true" class="_auto-scale" data-mce-src="cid:ed32e8b8-d1fe-4a16-8205-45f9a30bf7c0@icloud.com"                                                                                                                                                                                                                 data-mce-style="width: 26px; max-width: 100%;"></div><div><br></div><div>Valere Sutton</div><div><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" data-mce-href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>---------</div><div><br>On January 15, 2020 at 1:44 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" data-mce-href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-break: after-white-space;" data-mce-style="word-wrap: break-word; line-break: after-white-space;">By cursive style, I assume you are referring to write SignWriting by hand. To be honest, there are several different ways to write by hand that writers will use. In fact, it become very individualistic and personal. The main reason is because most writers will write by hand for personal notes, which might be later transferred to the computer to print out for general use. Because of this, there isn’t a whole lot of material or even “standardization” on how to write SignWriting by hand.<div><br></div><div>I do a lot of writing by hand myself to the extent that it might not look like SignWriting to some people. It might almost be considered shorthand to some people as well. (Right, Valerie? *wink*)</div><div><br></div><div>I did a presentation on various ways to write by hand in 2014. You can find information and even watch the presentation with this link: <a href="https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0003.html" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0003.html">https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0003.html</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>I have also done some short lessons on Facebook that include some lesson on writing by hand, but it isn’t by any means a complete explanation of how I write by hand. In fact, I don’t think I have even gone into a form of writing that I have personally been calling "simplified handwriting”. You can go to this link to check it out. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/SignWritingLessonsWithAdam/" data-mce-href="https://www.facebook.com/SignWritingLessonsWithAdam/">https://www.facebook.com/SignWritingLessonsWithAdam/</a></div><div><br><div><div><span><img src="cid:dc8dd0db-2269-41ca-a52d-cfcd1688c7f6@icloud.com"                                                                                                                                                                          style="width: 59px; max-width: 100%;" data-inline-image="true" class="_auto-scale" data-mce-src="cid:dc8dd0db-2269-41ca-a52d-cfcd1688c7f6@icloud.com"                                  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