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                    On Wednesday, February 19, 2020, 01:19:41 PM EST, Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org> wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914"><div><div dir="ltr">But maybe a video in the ASL version of the sign would still be a contribution to the discussion...and then writing it...<div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Mark, what sign language are you writing?<br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914yqt9612993308" id="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914yqt23118"><div class="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914gmail_quote"><div class="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 9:48 AM Adam Frost <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>I agree. It would be best to have a video.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>While I might be able to suggest how I would write it, it would be in ASL - using ASL grammar and linguistic features. I am not sure if that is the sign language that you are looking to write.</div><div><br clear="none"><div>
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<div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 19, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">SignWriting List<div>February 19, 2020</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Hello Mark Dinh Cao Tue and Cherie -</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thank you, Mark, for asking about this interesting sign.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>And thank you, Cherie, for offering to write it. Without a video of the sign, I would not be able to even try -</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>So we look forward to the discussion ;-)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914gmail_quote"><div class="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:08 AM Cherie Wren <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir="ltr">You can change the movement to represent the chaotic placement of the houses, and can use facial expressions to add the feeling of unruliness.  not sure exactly how I would write that, but the movement would be larger, and more sloppily signed, some higher some lower as the hands tap together, and the facial expression would be the tongue out 'careless' and the head would rock with the chaotic motion of the hands.  I'll take a stab a writing it after work...</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
        
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                    On Wednesday, February 19, 2020, 05:58:12 AM EST, Tuệ Đinh Cao <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dinhcaotue03@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dinhcaotue03@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914gmail-m_4311817007405392631gmail-m_4099484797804922111ydp9f9835dyiv1738377357"><div>Dear Ms Val,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I want to describe a chaotic, unruly cluster  of slum houses, but the most I can represent it in SW is this (the attached image below). The circular motion for both hands does not represent the chaotic and unruly-ness of the cluster of houses. Hence, how should it be?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Yours sincerely,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Mark Dinh Cao Tue</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div><span id="ydp8140d24yiv5755008914gmail-m_4311817007405392631cid:1705e73eda6845839f11"><IMG_2136.jpg></span></div><br clear="none"></div>
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