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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 19, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">February 19, 2020</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello Mark Dinh Cao Tue and Cherie -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you, Mark, for asking about this interesting sign.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And thank you, Cherie, for offering to write it. Without a video of the sign, I would not be able to even try -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So we look forward to the discussion ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:08 AM Cherie Wren <<a href="mailto:000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div class=""></div>
        <div dir="ltr" class="">You can change the movement to represent the chaotic placement of the houses, and can use facial expressions to add the feeling of unruliness.  not sure exactly how I would write that, but the movement would be larger, and more sloppily signed, some higher some lower as the hands tap together, and the facial expression would be the tongue out 'careless' and the head would rock with the chaotic motion of the hands.  I'll take a stab a writing it after work...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
        
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                    On Wednesday, February 19, 2020, 05:58:12 AM EST, Tuệ Đinh Cao <<a href="mailto:dinhcaotue03@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">dinhcaotue03@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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                <div class=""><div id="gmail-m_4099484797804922111ydp9f9835dyiv1738377357" class=""><div class="">Dear Ms Val,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I want to describe a chaotic, unruly cluster  of slum houses, but the most I can represent it in SW is this (the attached image below). The circular motion for both hands does not represent the chaotic and unruly-ness of the cluster of houses. Hence, how should it be?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yours sincerely,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mark Dinh Cao Tue</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><span id="cid:1705e73eda6845839f11"><IMG_2136.jpg></span></div><br class=""></div>
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