<html><body><div>SignWriting List</div><div>March 16, 2020</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Hello Mark (Tuệ Đinh Cao) -</div><div>This morning when I accessed your Singapore Sign Language (SgSL) dictionary and literature files on SignPuddle Online, I was so impressed. I see there are 1123 entries in the dictionary and 12 entries of SgSL literature written. </div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>We just created those empty new files for you recently. You must be working day and night. Thank you for your contribution to writing sign languages.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Singapore Sign Language Dictionary</div><div><a href="http://signbank.org/sp20/index.php?ui=1&sgn=11" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" data-mce-href="http://signbank.org/sp20/index.php?ui=1&sgn=11" data-mce-style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">http://signbank.org/sp20/index.php?ui=1&sgn=11</a></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Singapore Sign Language Literature</div><div><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=14" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" data-mce-href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=14" data-mce-style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=14</a></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Later I will be happy to go over some of the signs that are written there, to give you feedback, if you would like.<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Now to one of your questions...</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Mark asked: <blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0px 12px; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: #003399; margin: 0px; color: #003399; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="padding: 0px 12px; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: #003399; margin: 0px; color: #003399; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="msg-quote"><div dir="auto">Btw, 2 tie means that they move at the same time AND in the same direction, isn’t it?</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>No.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>SignWriting has its own terminology. In SignWriting, "Alternating Lines" means "2 movements moving in OPPOSITE directions at the SAME time." The directions alternate - move back and forth at the same time - that is our definition.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><img src="cid:0d9e314f-1ff5-4011-b5a9-0a276913dea0@icloud.com" class="_auto-scale " alt="Alternating_Lines.png" title="Alternating_Lines.png" style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;" data-inline-image="true" data-mce-style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;"></div><div><span style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></span></div><div>Even though this symbol exists and can be used, it is actually rarely needed, because if one knows how to read a sign from the center out, then you can see already that the two hands move at the "same time in opposite directions".</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>So it is ok to write with or without the Alternating Lines. It is up to each writer.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Here are two examples. The ASL signs COMMUNICATE and VARIOUS can be read accurately with or without the Alternating Lines.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><img src="cid:f163334f-5361-42b9-b8b4-6520f818befe@icloud.com" class="_auto-scale " alt="communicate.png" title="communicate.png" style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;" data-inline-image="true" data-mce-style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;"> <img src="cid:08b5360a-5df9-47b2-8cb4-a2324a9657d2@icloud.com" class="_auto-scale " alt="communicate-1.png" title="communicate-1.png" style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;" data-inline-image="true" data-mce-style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;"> <img src="cid:e26ed746-60da-43f0-b12b-95bbf17b9090@icloud.com" class="_auto-scale " alt="various.png" title="various.png" style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;" data-inline-image="true" data-mce-style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;"><img src="cid:33fab441-5836-4ffb-a488-e96221583950@icloud.com" class="_auto-scale " alt="various-1.png" title="various-1.png" style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;" data-inline-image="true" data-mce-style="margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br>On March 15, 2020 at 4:03 PM, Tuệ Đinh Cao <dinhcaotue03@GMAIL.COM> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote"><div><div dir="auto">Thank you, Ms Val!</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What if they move in the same direction but one hand is a little later than the other? Btw, 2 tie means that they move at the same time AND in the same direction, isn’t it?</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 06:30 Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" data-mce-href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>SignWriting List</div><div>March 15, 2020</div><div><br></div><div>Attached is a listing of the Dynamics Symbols, from page 183, in the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;">A single curved line means that the two hands are moving exactly at the same time. "Simultaenous" means at the same time.</div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;">A double curved line (stacked on top of each other) means that the two hands move at the same time, BUT, one moves in one direction while simultaneously the other hand moves in the opposite direction. It is "simultaneous but alternating" movement.</div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;">Two curved lines that are "staggered" mean that one hand moves while the other one stays still, and then that hand stays still while the other one moves. So they are NOT "simultaneous" but "staggered" - one stays still while the other moves and then the other stays still while the other moves and so forth... Natasha's example (in the previous attachment) of "Do you want to ask me questions?" shows that one hand moves alone and then it stops while the other hand moves alone and so forth...</div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;"><img src="cid:1878120c-bed8-4c3c-94c1-fa87006845d5@icloud.com" alt="Dynamics_Symbols_Lessons_in_SW_Textbook.png" title="Dynamics_Symbols_Lessons_in_SW_Textbook.png" style="max-width: 100%;" data-inline-image="true" class="_auto-scale" data-mce-src="cid:1878120c-bed8-4c3c-94c1-fa87006845d5@icloud.com" data-mce-style="max-width: 100%;"></div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: none;">-----------------</div></div></div><div><div><br>On March 15, 2020 at 3:17 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" data-mce-href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>SignWriting List</div><div>March 15, 2020</div><div><br></div><div>DYNAMICS SYMBOLS</div><div><br></div><div>Let us look at a document written by Natasha Escalada-Westland, an ASL and SignWriting instructor, who presented at the SignWriting Symposium in 2014. </div><div><br></div><div>Natasha's Presentation 0009 in 2014:</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0009.html" data-mce-href="https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0009.html">https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0009.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Natasha presented over 17 documents on SignWriting on that web page. One teaches Dynamics. Here is one page from that Dynamics document:</div><div><br></div><div>To be continued...</div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:497d5f31-2ecc-4eb9-be96-f1e42be4ae85@icloud.com" alt="Dynamics_Examples_Natasha_Escalada-Westland.png" title="Dynamics_Examples_Natasha_Escalada-Westland.png" style="max-width: 100%;" data-inline-image="true" class="_auto-scale" data-mce-src="cid:497d5f31-2ecc-4eb9-be96-f1e42be4ae85@icloud.com" data-mce-style="max-width: 100%;"></div></div><p><br></p></div></blockquote></div></div>________________________________________________<p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>
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