<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">April 28, 2020</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello SignWriting List, and Steve -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for this message. What a new and ingenious idea - to overwrite hand symbols that are not being used with new ones that are needed - that could be a game changer - a way to have new handshapes without changing the number of handshapes -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And I just looked at your site:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SignWriting 2020</div><div class=""><a href="https://signpuddle.org/index.html" class="">https://signpuddle.org/index.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That is quite a site! Chock full of information for everyone - Thank you for dedicating time to this -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And the projects are clearly described - I hope some of you can help with them -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SignWriting 2020 projects</div><div class=""><a href="https://signpuddle.org/projects.html" class="">https://signpuddle.org/projects.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I look forward to the discussions -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">_________</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:16 AM, Stephen Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net" class="">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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SignWriting List,</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 6px; display: block; font-family:
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</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 6px; display: block; font-family:
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".SFNSText-Regular", sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(29,
33, 41); color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-size: 14px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I need
your opinion and ideas.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system,
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</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system,
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14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">For
SignWriting 2020, I outlined a few work projects and where efforts
could be made.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; display: block; font-family: system-ui,
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</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 6px; font-family: inherit;" class="">It looks
like people are serious about additional hand shapes. The ISWA
2010 has 251 different hand shapes already. Not all of them are
used. Valerie documented all of the hand shapes she knew about
and added the ones that were requested and she added a few more
that might be used some day.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">In theory, there
are hand shapes that are close enough. Because of pride and
love, if a writer needs a certain hand shape, then they should
have that hand shape.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">The easiest way
to accommodate additional hand shapes is to find current hand
shapes that aren't used and simply overwrite them. This simple
change would create the ISWA 2020. It is a multi-stage process
and will take some time, but it wouldn't complicate processing
and it wouldn't break existing software.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">I would need to
create new fonts and we would be done. Unfortunately, all of the
ISWA 2010 hand shape references would become outdated.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">The ISWA 2010 is
a 16-bit character set, which is over 60,000 code points. The
code space is full.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">I like the idea
of an ISWA 2010 Extension as an additional 16-bit character set.
For whatever year, we would publish new characters and fonts for
additional hand shapes or perhaps a dance writing extension.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">Long term, I
would love to do the ISWA 2010 Extension, but for this project I
think we should overwrite a few of the unused hand shapes to
create the ISWA 2020.</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class=""><br class="">
</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">Your thoughts?</p><p style="margin: 6px 0px; font-family: inherit;" class="">-Steve</p>
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