<div dir="ltr">Well, I don't know sign language or how to arrange SignWriting!<div><br></div><div>John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:57 PM Jonathan Duncan <<a href="mailto:00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi John,</p>
    <p>    The SignPuddle is a public dictionnary you can add it
      yourself here.</p>
    <p><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/signmaker.php?ui=1&sgn=4" target="_blank">https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/signmaker.php?ui=1&sgn=4</a></p>
    <p>Jonathan<br>
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    <div>On 8/20/2020 4:18 AM, John Carlson
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      <div dir="ltr">I found this:  
        <a href="https://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/MOMENT" target="_blank">https://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/MOMENT</a> 
         .  Can this be added to SignWriting?
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        <div>Thanks,</div>
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        <div>John</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 5:03
          AM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">I ran into a slight problem translating Natural
            Semantic Metalanguage English exponents.
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            <div>For example, "moment" and "anymore" wouldn't translate.</div>
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            <div><a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate</a> </div>
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            <div><a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=anymore&action=translate</a></div>
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            <div>Gave a symbol that I associate with failure to find
              what it was looking for.</div>
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            <div>Thanks for any assistance!</div>
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            <div>John <br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at
              12:31 PM Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a>>
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              <div dir="ltr">SignWriting List
                <div>October 29, 2019</div>
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                <div>Hi John -</div>
                <div>This sounds very interesting. This could possibly
                  be a project for an MA degree or Ph.D dissertation in
                  animation or software development. Some of the
                  excellent programs that are used today in the
                  SignWriting world stem from bright enthusiastic
                  students who had good ideas and tested their ideas
                  while studying at a university. And very interesting
                  when they post announcements or questions here on the
                  list.</div>
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                <div>So keep us informed if you find others who want to
                  work on this project.</div>
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                <div>By the way, if you are having trouble seeing on
                  computers, you are right there are larger fonts, and
                  you can also access features developed for people with
                  sight impairment. Under "Accessibility" on some
                  computers, you can turn your screen black and the
                  letters can become white or yellow, and that can help
                  sometimes too. I use that occasionally. Recently the
                  Mac has a new OS 10.14.6 called "Mojave" and it has a
                  new feature where your entire screen can be black and
                  all type is white - it is rather exciting to work that
                  way and easier on our eyes sometimes.</div>
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                <div>All the best - Val ;-)</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 28, 2019
                  at 5:47 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Hello All,</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">My goal is to create a way to
                        use computers which does not depend on reading
                        very small symbols that ache my head or my eyes.
                        Perhaps I should use larger fonts or (yuck)
                        glasses.  But to distract from the ache in my
                        head, I try to come up with a solution that is
                        beyond the sedentary lifestyle.</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Some of us have worked on
                        using Natural Semantic Metalanguage (NSM) for
                        translation.  Others have studied 3D ontologies.
                          Others have studied humanoid modelling and
                        animation. What I would like to work on in
                        addition, is the Fluid Movement Semantic
                        Metalanguage (FMSM) problem as well, if not
                        solved by Valerie Sutton in her MovementWriting
                        and SignWriting work.  Perhaps the concept of
                        Semantic can unify Fluid Movement (physical
                        linguistics) and Sign (key frame), similar to
                        how Symbol unifies Movie and Shape (my focus,
                        based on PostScript, X3D/VRML and shading
                        languages with a hats off to Ted Nelson). I
                        believe this would mean that we would have to
                        come up with Prime Shapes (in addition to Prime
                        Semantics from NSM). I believe these Prime
                        Shapes can come from MovementWriting icons (or
                        the programs that create the icons) or from
                        X3D/VRML ontologies. If we extend our thinking
                        into time, then Signs and Shapes would become
                        animated into Fluid Movement and Movies
                        (possibly of hyperdimension).  </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">What I’ve left out so far is
                        the semantics of grouping.  Please discuss.  I
                        think we’re just getting to that in X3D Models
                        in the semantics group.</p>
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