<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">September 21, 2020</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In SignPuddle 2, all variations of a handshape are shown together, in one large Symbol Palette. The mirrored or flopped images are on the bottom of the Palette. In this case, that is what you needed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In SignMaker 2017, you need to push the Mirror Button at the top right of the software window to see the mirrored images.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please see two attached diagrams. Have questions? Write to the SignWriting List and I am happy to answer them. Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="31514088-5BCA-4A2F-A63F-048A5DD5F383" src="cid:7398653F-D61B-4374-AC8F-193952C67ED9@san.rr.com" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="A786744A-E922-4F2F-806F-917C5579897F" src="cid:38DEAC75-2A76-4BE0-8D23-826BA23E7408@san.rr.com" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">_____________<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 21, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" class="">signwriting@mac.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">September 21, 2020</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val’s Answer:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regarding software:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Did you know there are two places to access the Korean Sign Language Dictionary in SignWriting online?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SignPuddle 2:</div><div class="">Korean Sign Language Dictionary</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=78" class="">https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=78</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SignMaker 2017:</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en&dictionary=kvk" class="">https://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en&dictionary=kvk</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">BOTH programs can be used freely.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The two programs work a little differently. I feel it is easier to use SignPuddle 2 because you can see all the handshapes in one large grid when you are creating new signs. In SignMaker 2017, you need to push the Mirror Button to find this unusual palm facing. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please see attached. This is my writing of this sign, based on your video. There are other ways to write this sign. This is my choice of handshape. We can discuss the other choices later.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Next I will explain where I found the handshape in both software programs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:ECB2FCFB-EE4A-4284-A68B-6DA0BDFA1DE1@san.rr.com"><Korean_Sign_Handshape.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">----------------<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 21, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" class="">signwriting@mac.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">September 21, 2020</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for this question from Korea. The answer comes next message.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">QUESTION:</div><div class=""><span style="font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">"I want to write this sign in SignWriting.</span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><font face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class="">This sign is not Front or Top view.</span></font></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><font face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><font face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class="">Maybe this sign is Front View and Side of Hand?</span></font></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><font face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><font face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class="">But, it </span></font><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class="">turns one's palm upside down.</span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">So, i can't<span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""> </span>find it in<span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""> Signmaker 2017.</span><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Any advice on what symbols to use?</div></div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>________________________________________________
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