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<p>Hi, <br>
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<p> If you want an alternative SignWriting page you can also use
QuickSignEditor in conjuction with SignMaker2015. You can use it
freely at no cost too.<br>
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<p><a
href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en</a></p>
<p>However loading the sign puddles is not currently available. It
was disabled for technical reasons which I don't remember off hand
right now.<br>
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<p>Click on the <img src="cid:part2.EFE5A4F0.7B0C33CB@gmail.com"
alt=""> button.</p>
<p>Choose base symbol in the maniquin.</p>
<p><img src="cid:part3.C9FD0C0D.74750C29@gmail.com" alt=""></p>
<p>The symbols are grouped by similarities</p>
<p><img src="cid:part4.8D4206F9.4D7A17A3@gmail.com" alt=""></p>
<p>You can choose an orientation</p>
<p><img src="cid:part5.E1BA038D.A5E630B4@gmail.com" alt=""></p>
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<p>Drag the symbol you need to the sign area.<br>
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<p>If you hit Shift-4 you can use the arrow keys to move them
around.</p>
<p>With the mouse you can select several symbols at once</p>
<p><img src="cid:part6.F717496B.74621F9F@gmail.com" alt=""></p>
<p>Hit Save and you are back in SignMaker2015</p>
<p>Click on Dictionary to see the FSW.</p>
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<p><img src="cid:part7.84C8B262.4CA2FAD1@gmail.com" alt=""></p>
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<p>Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/21/2020 11:51 AM, Valerie Sutton
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:5D963318-5047-4B20-9CAF-46EF3E47127D@mac.com">
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SignWriting List
<div class="">September 21, 2020</div>
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<div class="">Val’s Answer:</div>
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</div>
<div class="">Regarding software:</div>
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</div>
<div class="">Did you know there are two places to access the
Korean Sign Language Dictionary in SignWriting online?</div>
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</div>
<div class="">SignPuddle 2:</div>
<div class="">Korean Sign Language Dictionary</div>
<div class=""><a
href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=78"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=78</a></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">And…</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">SignMaker 2017:</div>
<div class=""><a
href="https://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en&dictionary=kvk"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en&dictionary=kvk</a></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">BOTH programs can be used freely.</div>
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</div>
<div class="">The two programs work a little differently. I feel
it is easier to use SignPuddle 2 because you can see all the
handshapes in one large grid when you are creating new signs. In
SignMaker 2017, you need to push the Mirror Button to find this
unusual palm facing. </div>
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<div class="">Please see attached. This is my writing of this
sign, based on your video. There are other ways to write this
sign. This is my choice of handshape. We can discuss the other
choices later.</div>
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<div class="">Next I will explain where I found the handshape in
both software programs.</div>
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<div class=""><img apple-inline="yes"
id="350612DC-B440-4990-A7B9-3ABF88CBDE02"
src="cid:part10.D278FE9D.15CCBEE9@gmail.com" class=""></div>
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<div class="">On Sep 21, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Valerie Sutton
<<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">signwriting@mac.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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charset=UTF-8" class="">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting
List
<div class="">September 21, 2020</div>
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</div>
<div class="">Thank you for this question from Korea.
The answer comes next message.</div>
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<div class="">QUESTION:</div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: "Noto
Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto
Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft
YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo",
"Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum,
돋움, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(253, 253,
253); caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><br
class="">
</span></div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: "Noto
Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto
Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft
YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo",
"Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum,
돋움, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(253, 253,
253); caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">"I
want to write this sign in SignWriting.</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family: "Noto
Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto
Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft
YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo",
"Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum,
돋움, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(253, 253,
253);" class=""><br class="">
</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class=""><font class="" face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP,
Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD
Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움,
sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253,
253, 253);" class="">This sign is not Front or Top
view.</span></font></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class=""><font class="" face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP,
Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD
Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움,
sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253,
253, 253);" class=""><br class="">
</span></font></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class=""><font class="" face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP,
Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD
Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움,
sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253,
253, 253);" class="">Maybe this sign is Front View
and Side of Hand?</span></font></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class=""><font class="" face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP,
Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD
Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움,
sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253,
253, 253);" class=""><br class="">
</span></font></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class=""><font class="" face="Noto Sans, Noto Sans JP,
Noto Sans KR, Helvetica, Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD
Gothic Neo, Malgun Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움,
sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253,
253, 253);" class="">But, it </span></font><span
style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);
font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans
JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica,
"Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic
Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은
고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class="">turns
one's palm upside down.</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253,
253); font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto
Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica,
"Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic
Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은
고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""><br
class="">
</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class="">So, i can't<span style="background-color:
rgb(253, 253, 253); font-family: "Noto
Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto
Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft
YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo",
"Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum,
돋움, sans-serif;" class=""> </span>find it in<span
style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);
font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans
JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica,
"Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic
Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은
고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""> Signmaker
2017.</span><br class="">
</div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253,
253); font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto
Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR", Helvetica,
"Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic
Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은
고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""><br
class="">
</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34,
34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"
class="">Any advice on what symbols to use?</div>
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