<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">September 27, 2020</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you, Jonathan Duncan, for the QuickSignEditor program!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Everyone - if you go to:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">QuickSignEditor</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en" class="">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and then click on a little button at the top of the page that says “QuickSignEditor”, and then Refresh your web page and click on it a second time - it works!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Very nice program, Jonathan. I look forward to writing with it soon!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">--------</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 27, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Jonathan Duncan <<a href="mailto:joyoduncan@GMAIL.COM" class="">joyoduncan@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class="">
<div class=""><p class="">Hi,</p><p class=""> I've realized that sometimes the QuickSignEditor won't show.
There is a work around that has worked for others too. Let the web
page fully load a first time, then hit refresh and wait for it to
load a second time. Then click on the QuickSignEditor button to
be able to use.</p><p class="">Jonathan<br class="">
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/21/2020 8:05 PM, Jonathan Duncan
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:f0546426-0a34-2f54-b3f2-f7f346f01348@gmail.com" class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class=""><p class="">Hi, <br class="">
</p><p class=""> If you want an alternative SignWriting page you can also
use QuickSignEditor in conjuction with SignMaker2015. You can
use it freely at no cost too.<br class="">
</p><p class=""><a href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en</a></p><p class="">However loading the sign puddles is not currently available.
It was disabled for technical reasons which I don't remember off
hand right now.<br class="">
</p><p class="">Click on the <span id="cid:part2.085BC350.DA726B01@gmail.com"><dbmjphababdmnnag.png></span> button.</p><p class="">Choose base symbol in the maniquin.</p><p class=""><span id="cid:part3.164923B7.24287FCF@gmail.com"><ojmmlcadjahbgdgi.png></span></p><p class="">The symbols are grouped by similarities</p><p class=""><span id="cid:part4.3233FE63.0A09C0E3@gmail.com"><camalpdbjgkpgdag.png></span></p><p class="">You can choose an orientation</p><p class=""><span id="cid:part5.F504AC0A.E4D64731@gmail.com"><hmgcbcldimpffnec.png></span></p><p class=""><br class="">
</p><p class="">Drag the symbol you need to the sign area.<br class="">
</p><p class="">If you hit Shift-4 you can use the arrow keys to move them
around.</p><p class="">With the mouse you can select several symbols at once</p><p class=""><span id="cid:part6.2AAD4F24.8E0112C6@gmail.com"><phdgogodgfopbpgl.png></span></p><p class="">Hit Save and you are back in SignMaker2015</p><p class="">Click on Dictionary to see the FSW.</p><p class=""><br class="">
</p><p class=""><span id="cid:part7.32CC3699.8430D6EF@gmail.com"><miglknlohkhlfkpj.png></span></p><p class=""><br class="">
</p><p class="">Jonathan<br class="">
</p><p class=""><br class="">
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/21/2020 11:51 AM, Valerie Sutton
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:5D963318-5047-4B20-9CAF-46EF3E47127D@mac.com" class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8" class="">
SignWriting List
<div class="">September 21, 2020</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Val’s Answer:</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regarding software:</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Did you know there are two places to access the
Korean Sign Language Dictionary in SignWriting online?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">SignPuddle 2:</div>
<div class="">Korean Sign Language Dictionary</div>
<div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=78" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=78</a></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">And…</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">SignMaker 2017:</div>
<div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en&dictionary=kvk" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en&dictionary=kvk</a></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">BOTH programs can be used freely.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The two programs work a little differently. I feel
it is easier to use SignPuddle 2 because you can see all the
handshapes in one large grid when you are creating new signs.
In SignMaker 2017, you need to push the Mirror Button to find
this unusual palm facing. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Please see attached. This is my writing of this
sign, based on your video. There are other ways to write this
sign. This is my choice of handshape. We can discuss the other
choices later.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Next I will explain where I found the handshape in
both software programs.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><span id="cid:part10.789AC58C.E4F9AC05@gmail.com"><Korean_Sign_Handshape.png></span></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">----------------<br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Sep 21, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Valerie Sutton
<<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">signwriting@mac.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8" class="">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting
List
<div class="">September 21, 2020</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Thank you for this question from Korea.
The answer comes next message.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">QUESTION:</div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: "Noto
Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto
Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft
YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo",
"Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕",
Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(253,
253, 253); caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><br class="">
</span></div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: "Noto
Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto
Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft
YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo",
"Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕",
Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(253,
253, 253); caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">"I
want to write this sign in SignWriting.</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family:
"Noto Sans", "Noto Sans JP",
"Noto Sans KR", Helvetica,
"Microsoft YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic
Neo", "Malgun Gothic", "맑은
고딕", Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif; background-color:
rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=""><br class="">
</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><font class="" face="Noto
Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica,
Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun
Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class="">This sign is not Front or Top view.</span></font></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><font class="" face="Noto
Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica,
Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun
Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=""><br class="">
</span></font></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><font class="" face="Noto
Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica,
Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun
Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class="">Maybe this sign is Front View and Side
of Hand?</span></font></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><font class="" face="Noto
Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica,
Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun
Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=""><br class="">
</span></font></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><font class="" face="Noto
Sans, Noto Sans JP, Noto Sans KR, Helvetica,
Microsoft YaHei, Apple SD Gothic Neo, Malgun
Gothic, 맑은 고딕, Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif"><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class="">But, it </span></font><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);
font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto
Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR",
Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei",
"Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun
Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움,
sans-serif;" class="">turns one's palm upside
down.</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><span style="background-color:
rgb(253, 253, 253); font-family: "Noto
Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto
Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft
YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo",
"Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕",
Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">
</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class="">So, i can't<span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);
font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto
Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR",
Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei",
"Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun
Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span>find it in<span style="background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);
font-family: "Noto Sans", "Noto
Sans JP", "Noto Sans KR",
Helvetica, "Microsoft YaHei",
"Apple SD Gothic Neo", "Malgun
Gothic", "맑은 고딕", Dotum, 돋움,
sans-serif;" class=""> Signmaker 2017.</span><br class="">
</div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><span style="background-color:
rgb(253, 253, 253); font-family: "Noto
Sans", "Noto Sans JP", "Noto
Sans KR", Helvetica, "Microsoft
YaHei", "Apple SD Gothic Neo",
"Malgun Gothic", "맑은 고딕",
Dotum, 돋움, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">
</span></div>
<div style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class="">Any advice on what symbols to
use?</div>
</div>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8" class="">
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
________________________________________________
<div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=""> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION </p><p class=""> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator <a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a>
</p><p class=""> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: <a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>
</p><p class=""> SignWriting List Archives & Home Page <a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a>
</p><p class=""> Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages <a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a>
</p>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</div>
________________________________________________
<div class="">
<br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="">
SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
</p><p class="">
Valerie Sutton
SignWriting List moderator
<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a>
</p><p class="">
Post Messages to the SignWriting List:
<a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>
</p><p class="">
SignWriting List Archives & Home Page
<a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" target="_blank" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a>
</p><p class="">
Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages
<a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" target="_blank" class="">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a>
</p></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>________________________________________________
<p>
</p><p>
SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
</p><p>
Valerie Sutton
SignWriting List moderator
<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a>
</p><p>
Post Messages to the SignWriting List:
<a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>
</p><p>
SignWriting List Archives & Home Page
<a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a>
</p><p>
Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages
<a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" target="_blank">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a>