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    <p>Hi Adam,</p>
    <p>    Actually it is presently possible to write smaller hand
      shapes with the existing fonts.</p>
    <p>If you go to <br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en</a></p>
    <p>And click on QuickSignEditor, <br>
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    <p><img src="cid:part1.A7F12A83.44B93B8B@yahoo.ca" alt=""></p>
    <p>You can change the size of the symbols.  It uses the styling
      portion of the FSW that Steve and I created together.</p>
    <p><img src="cid:part2.D83A5BE6.AB4DDB53@yahoo.ca" alt=""></p>
    <p>Use minus in the circle button.</p>
    <p><img src="cid:part3.E9691116.092D82EC@yahoo.ca" alt=""></p>
    <p>I'm don't know if any of the other editors can change the symbol
      size or not.</p>
    <p>For some reason, the symbol styling isn't coming across to the
      version of SignMaker I have it hosted in.</p>
    <p>So the technology is there, it's probably just a matter of adding
      a few more control to the editors for you to actually be able to
      do it and save it in SignPuddle.</p>
    <p>Steve,  what is your take on this subject?</p>
    <p>Regards,</p>
    <p>Jonathan<br>
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    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2021 8:31 AM, Adam Frost wrote:<br>
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      Thank you Cherie and André for your suggestions.
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      <div class="">Cherie, I agree that “other” team is still in
        neutral space, only farther away, while “my” team is closer to
        my chest. While I don’t see “my” team as actually touching my
        chest, I can see your suggestion for the touch symbol. Do you
        think that would make more sense than the shoulder line to imply
        that the sign is at or near the chest?</div>
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      <div class="">André, your overhead view does make sense as being
        useful for showing depth, but the palm facing seems to be
        confusing. As you had it written, it means the palm is facing up
        rather than facing the chest. Unless I am wrong, the palm
        facings would would be as the following:</div>
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      <div class="">If changing the view would make depth easier to see,
        I think using the side view would be easier for the palm
        facings.</div>
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      <div class="">However, I don’t know if I like changing the
        viewpoint in everyday writing in such rare cases.</div>
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      <div class="">However, I did notice that André combined the two
        scores into one sign to show the depth. I think that this would
        work (without having to change the viewpoint at all) only if
        both numbers are stated together.</div>
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      <div class="">I am not sure how I would write the “other” team’s
        score to clearly show the depth without the viewpoint change. I
        do like the idea of having it be “smaller” to show it is farther
        away, but I’m not sure if that is practical either. (Just a
        thought, wouldn’t that just be handled by the font much like
        superscripts and subscripts? This doesn’t actually “create” more
        symbols when this is done. Hmm…)</div>
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            <div class="">On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:23 AM, Cherie Wren <<a
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              wrote:</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">when I
                    sign two team scores, its usually one nearly
                    touching my chest (my team) and one farther away...
                    but still in neutral space.  Perhaps a touch symbol
                    for the nearer "my team"?</div>
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                    <div class=""> On Thursday, April 15, 2021, 10:39:35
                      PM EDT, André Thibeault <<a
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                      wrote: </div>
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                          <div class="">Hello Adaame and Val,</div>
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                          <div class="">I write this:</div>
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                          <div class="">Best regards,</div>
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                          <div class="">André</div>
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                                class="">De : </span> Adam Frost <<a
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                              <span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Répondre
                                à : </span> "SignWriting List: Read and
                              Write Sign Languages" <<a
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                              <span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Date :
                              </span> Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:40:47 -0700<br
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                              <span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">À :
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                              <span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Objet :
                              </span> Re: Placement of Signs in Space<br
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                              <div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                <div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
                                  thought I recall something about the
                                  sizing being used for depth, but I
                                  don’t think that it would be necessary
                                  for everyday writing. Like I said,
                                  this situation rarely comes up for me.
                                  ;-)</div>
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                                </div>
                                <div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Here
                                  is a screen capture of what I wrote.
                                  It is talking about two baseball
                                  teams: The Nationals and the
                                  Diamondbacks.</div>
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                                <span id="cid:q9PRmGvZ1BZonC4v32dk"><Screen
                                  Shot 2021-04-15 at 6.32.37 PM.png></span>
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                                <div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Notice
                                  the last two signs are supposed to
                                  have the depth. I feel that the
                                  shoulder line shows the number being
                                  closer to the body, but the other
                                  number doesn’t have the concept of
                                  being away from the body as it is
                                  written.</div>
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                                <div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">As
                                  for the concepts of “teams”, ASL makes
                                  use of placing concepts in specific
                                  locations all the time. It isn’t
                                  limited to names of teams. That is the
                                  reason the lanes work so well for
                                  this. However, it is common for people
                                  to have their preferred teams in
                                  sports, so that is where the depth
                                  comes into play.</div>
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                                      class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Adam</span></div>
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                                        class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">On
                                        Apr 15, 2021, at 6:17 PM,
                                        Valerie Sutton <<a
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                                        wrote:</div>
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                                          class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">SignWriting
                                          List
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">April
                                            15, 2021</div>
                                          <div
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                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Hello
                                            everyone on the SignWriting
                                            List, and thank you for this
                                            message, Adam ;-)</div>
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                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Of
                                            course this sounds like a
                                            very useful way to write
                                            “teams” in sign language,
                                            but can you show us written
                                            examples in SignWriting?</div>
                                          <div
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class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">And
                                            since I am not a teacher of
                                            a classroom of ASL signers,
                                            maybe you could explain to
                                            me (and all of us) - what do
                                            you mean by “teams”? Is it
                                            for writing some kind of a
                                            game in ASL?</div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But
                                            to answer your question -
                                            the Lanes show us spatial
                                            comparisons and
                                            weight-shifting to the
                                            “right of center” and to the
                                            “left of center”. They are
                                            invaluable for writing
                                            spatial comparisons in sign
                                            languages.</div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Technically
                                            there is a Lane that is “far
                                            in front” and one that is
                                            “close to the chest” - and
                                            one that is neutral in
                                            signing space - but over
                                            time we started to write
                                            those differences in “depth”
                                            with Movement Symbols. We
                                            actually DID have a way to
                                            write “depth” with hand
                                            symbols years ago, in the
                                            1980s.</div>
                                          <div
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class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">This
                                            was a technique that really
                                            worked in the early days of
                                            SignWriting, when we were
                                            writing sign language by
                                            hand with ink pens. There
                                            were 3 sizes of hand symbols
                                            - the normal size we use
                                            everyday is the “middle
                                            neutral space”, the smaller
                                            version of the symbol means
                                            “far away from the chest”
                                            and the larger symbol means
                                            closer to the chest. This is
                                            based on art perspectives.
                                            Further away is always
                                            smaller.</div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
                                            have an article about this
                                            somewhere - I will try to
                                            find it and post it later.</div>
                                          <div
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class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But,
                                            as time went by, it seemed
                                            like too much information
                                            that was not necessary for
                                            everyday writing, and for
                                            computer symbol sets, it was
                                            a real problem because it
                                            would double or triple the
                                            amount of symbols so the
                                            idea of "far being smaller"
                                            and “close being larger” was
                                            ignored and we have one set
                                            of symbols at one size for
                                            everything. The ISWA 2010 is
                                            large enough!</div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">So
                                            how do we see “depth” in
                                            everyday writing? Movement
                                            Symbols and some
                                            standardized spellings have
                                            helped.</div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But
                                            now - Adam - please post
                                            some SignWriting showing us
                                            what you have written - many
                                            thanks!</div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Val
                                            ;-)</div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">----------</div>
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                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
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                                            class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
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                                              class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                              <blockquote type="cite"
                                                class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                                <div
                                                  class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">On
                                                  Apr 15, 2021, at 1:22
                                                  PM, Adam Frost <<a
href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    rel="noreferrer
                                                    noopener"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>>
                                                  wrote:</div>
                                                <br
                                                  class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106Apple-interchange-newline">
                                                <div
                                                  class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                                  <div
                                                    class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
                                                    was doing some
                                                    writing in
                                                    SignWriting and came
                                                    across an issue that
                                                    I never really
                                                    thought of in the
                                                    past. In ASL, scores
                                                    can be done by
                                                    placing the teams in
                                                    a location and then
                                                    giving the numbers
                                                    of the score in that
                                                    location. For
                                                    example, I can have
                                                    one team on the
                                                    right and another on
                                                    the left. If I sign
                                                    4 on the right and
                                                    then 5 on the left,
                                                    it clearly says who
                                                    has what score. This
                                                    is easily done using
                                                    the lanes in
                                                    SignWriting.
                                                    <div
                                                      class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">The
                                                      issue came into
                                                      play when it was
                                                      giving scores for
                                                      “my team” vs “your
                                                      team”. If I signed
                                                      4 near my chest
                                                      and then 5 away
                                                      from me, it would
                                                      means “I have 4
                                                      and you have 5.”
                                                      When I tried to
                                                      write this, I
                                                      wrote the shoulder
                                                      line over 4 and
                                                      wrote 5 as I do
                                                      normally. This
                                                      didn’t really seem
                                                      like an issue to
                                                      me until I had a
                                                      friend asked me
                                                      how I knew that 5
                                                      was signed away
                                                      from my body
                                                      rather than just
                                                      in the neutral
                                                      location when
                                                      signing 5 on its
                                                      own. I had said I
                                                      just assumed it,
                                                      but that got me
                                                      thinking if there
                                                      was a simple way
                                                      to write it so
                                                      that it would be
                                                      clear and didn’t
                                                      have to be
                                                      assumed. Is there?</div>
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class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
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                                                        class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><span
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><span class=""><namesign.png></span></span><br
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                                                          !important;"
                                                          class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Adam</span></div>
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