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<p>Hi Adam,</p>
<p> Actually it is presently possible to write smaller hand
shapes with the existing fonts.</p>
<p>If you go to <br>
</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en</a></p>
<p>And click on QuickSignEditor, <br>
</p>
<p><img src="cid:part1.A7F12A83.44B93B8B@yahoo.ca" alt=""></p>
<p>You can change the size of the symbols. It uses the styling
portion of the FSW that Steve and I created together.</p>
<p><img src="cid:part2.D83A5BE6.AB4DDB53@yahoo.ca" alt=""></p>
<p>Use minus in the circle button.</p>
<p><img src="cid:part3.E9691116.092D82EC@yahoo.ca" alt=""></p>
<p>I'm don't know if any of the other editors can change the symbol
size or not.</p>
<p>For some reason, the symbol styling isn't coming across to the
version of SignMaker I have it hosted in.</p>
<p>So the technology is there, it's probably just a matter of adding
a few more control to the editors for you to actually be able to
do it and save it in SignPuddle.</p>
<p>Steve, what is your take on this subject?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Jonathan<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2021 8:31 AM, Adam Frost wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:EB853F9E-D2FA-44DC-B114-189A5EBFBE88@gmail.com">
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Thank you Cherie and André for your suggestions.
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</div>
<div class="">Cherie, I agree that “other” team is still in
neutral space, only farther away, while “my” team is closer to
my chest. While I don’t see “my” team as actually touching my
chest, I can see your suggestion for the touch symbol. Do you
think that would make more sense than the shoulder line to imply
that the sign is at or near the chest?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">André, your overhead view does make sense as being
useful for showing depth, but the palm facing seems to be
confusing. As you had it written, it means the palm is facing up
rather than facing the chest. Unless I am wrong, the palm
facings would would be as the following:</div>
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</div>
<div class=""><img apple-inline="yes"
id="3868C70E-8F7B-4F04-99B6-4245FDCECDAD"
src="cid:part4.6B147457.840A8969@yahoo.ca" class="" width="84"
height="248"></div>
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</div>
<div class="">If changing the view would make depth easier to see,
I think using the side view would be easier for the palm
facings.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
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id="7279C98A-D2E6-44B2-B4F5-766244040D5F"
src="cid:part5.B71F375B.B5363FF4@yahoo.ca" class=""
width="119" height="200"></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">However, I don’t know if I like changing the
viewpoint in everyday writing in such rare cases.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">However, I did notice that André combined the two
scores into one sign to show the depth. I think that this would
work (without having to change the viewpoint at all) only if
both numbers are stated together.</div>
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id="3335311D-8E04-4D6C-83A3-8C67E7893180"
src="cid:part6.429A9F37.45F73D73@yahoo.ca" class="" width="51"
height="108"></div>
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<div class="">I am not sure how I would write the “other” team’s
score to clearly show the depth without the viewpoint change. I
do like the idea of having it be “smaller” to show it is farther
away, but I’m not sure if that is practical either. (Just a
thought, wouldn’t that just be handled by the font much like
superscripts and subscripts? This doesn’t actually “create” more
symbols when this is done. Hmm…)</div>
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id="68C3173F-970B-4C68-A7A3-9CB3EF42EC67"
src="cid:part7.52542ADE.36B1EE36@yahoo.ca" class=""></span><br
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
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font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust:
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;
float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Adam</span>
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<div class="">On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:23 AM, Cherie Wren <<a
href="mailto:000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>>
wrote:</div>
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font-size: 16px;">
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">when I
sign two team scores, its usually one nearly
touching my chest (my team) and one farther away...
but still in neutral space. Perhaps a touch symbol
for the nearer "my team"?</div>
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class="ydp304a5ab3yahoo_quoted">
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class="">
<div class=""> On Thursday, April 15, 2021, 10:39:35
PM EDT, André Thibeault <<a
href="mailto:atg@videotron.ca" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">atg@videotron.ca</a>>
wrote: </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">
<div id="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106" class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">Hello Adaame and Val,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I write this:</div>
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src="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&bound=t&ksw=M62x61S2ff20n61xn60S2ff20n59x26S1440024xn94S10120n52xn8S14c0026xn143S14720n31xn3S15a5an58xn110S11951n46xn121S2e736n52xn137S2ff2014xn58S2650030xn111"
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<div class="">Best regards,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">André</div>
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id="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"
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none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);"
class=""><span style="font-weight:bold;"
class="">De : </span> Adam Frost <<a
href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
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moz-do-not-send="true">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br
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<span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Répondre
à : </span> "SignWriting List: Read and
Write Sign Languages" <<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Date :
</span> Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:40:47 -0700<br
class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">À :
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class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Objet :
</span> Re: Placement of Signs in Space<br
class="">
</div>
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</div>
<div class="">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
thought I recall something about the
sizing being used for depth, but I
don’t think that it would be necessary
for everyday writing. Like I said,
this situation rarely comes up for me.
;-)</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Here
is a screen capture of what I wrote.
It is talking about two baseball
teams: The Nationals and the
Diamondbacks.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<span id="cid:q9PRmGvZ1BZonC4v32dk"><Screen
Shot 2021-04-15 at 6.32.37 PM.png></span>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Notice
the last two signs are supposed to
have the depth. I feel that the
shoulder line shows the number being
closer to the body, but the other
number doesn’t have the concept of
being away from the body as it is
written.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">As
for the concepts of “teams”, ASL makes
use of placing concepts in specific
locations all the time. It isn’t
limited to names of teams. That is the
reason the lanes work so well for
this. However, it is common for people
to have their preferred teams in
sports, so that is where the depth
comes into play.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><span
class=""><span
id="cid:XBClBn35reJz3nLygvfq"><namesign.png></span></span><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106Apple-interchange-newline"
style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 12px; font-style:
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none; white-space: normal;
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text-decoration: none;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 12px; font-style:
normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float:
none; display: inline !important;"
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Adam</span></div>
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class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<blockquote type="cite"
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">On
Apr 15, 2021, at 6:17 PM,
Valerie Sutton <<a
href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU"
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
noopener"
moz-do-not-send="true">0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>>
wrote:</div>
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class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106Apple-interchange-newline">
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">SignWriting
List
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">April
15, 2021</div>
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class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
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<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Hello
everyone on the SignWriting
List, and thank you for this
message, Adam ;-)</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Of
course this sounds like a
very useful way to write
“teams” in sign language,
but can you show us written
examples in SignWriting?</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">And
since I am not a teacher of
a classroom of ASL signers,
maybe you could explain to
me (and all of us) - what do
you mean by “teams”? Is it
for writing some kind of a
game in ASL?</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But
to answer your question -
the Lanes show us spatial
comparisons and
weight-shifting to the
“right of center” and to the
“left of center”. They are
invaluable for writing
spatial comparisons in sign
languages.</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Technically
there is a Lane that is “far
in front” and one that is
“close to the chest” - and
one that is neutral in
signing space - but over
time we started to write
those differences in “depth”
with Movement Symbols. We
actually DID have a way to
write “depth” with hand
symbols years ago, in the
1980s.</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">This
was a technique that really
worked in the early days of
SignWriting, when we were
writing sign language by
hand with ink pens. There
were 3 sizes of hand symbols
- the normal size we use
everyday is the “middle
neutral space”, the smaller
version of the symbol means
“far away from the chest”
and the larger symbol means
closer to the chest. This is
based on art perspectives.
Further away is always
smaller.</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
have an article about this
somewhere - I will try to
find it and post it later.</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But,
as time went by, it seemed
like too much information
that was not necessary for
everyday writing, and for
computer symbol sets, it was
a real problem because it
would double or triple the
amount of symbols so the
idea of "far being smaller"
and “close being larger” was
ignored and we have one set
of symbols at one size for
everything. The ISWA 2010 is
large enough!</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">So
how do we see “depth” in
everyday writing? Movement
Symbols and some
standardized spellings have
helped.</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But
now - Adam - please post
some SignWriting showing us
what you have written - many
thanks!</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Val
;-)</div>
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<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">On
Apr 15, 2021, at 1:22
PM, Adam Frost <<a
href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"
target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer
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moz-do-not-send="true">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>>
wrote:</div>
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class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106Apple-interchange-newline">
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
was doing some
writing in
SignWriting and came
across an issue that
I never really
thought of in the
past. In ASL, scores
can be done by
placing the teams in
a location and then
giving the numbers
of the score in that
location. For
example, I can have
one team on the
right and another on
the left. If I sign
4 on the right and
then 5 on the left,
it clearly says who
has what score. This
is easily done using
the lanes in
SignWriting.
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">The
issue came into
play when it was
giving scores for
“my team” vs “your
team”. If I signed
4 near my chest
and then 5 away
from me, it would
means “I have 4
and you have 5.”
When I tried to
write this, I
wrote the shoulder
line over 4 and
wrote 5 as I do
normally. This
didn’t really seem
like an issue to
me until I had a
friend asked me
how I knew that 5
was signed away
from my body
rather than just
in the neutral
location when
signing 5 on its
own. I had said I
just assumed it,
but that got me
thinking if there
was a simple way
to write it so
that it would be
clear and didn’t
have to be
assumed. Is there?</div>
<div
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
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!important;"
class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Adam</span></div>
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