<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">You didn’t get me email? Odd. Maybe it went into spam? You can always check the archive online to be sure. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>I could be wrong about the palm facing from the top view. That is what I was checking to be sure. ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<span><img apple-inline="yes" id="8388C54C-B810-4B7F-990A-5AB325E5C70B" src="cid:BC7FF2BE-B327-4618-B076-E92B91C176BA@home" class=""></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Adam</span>
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:12 AM, André Thibeault <<a href="mailto:atg@VIDEOTRON.CA" class="">atg@VIDEOTRON.CA</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><div class="">Hello Adam,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I did not get your email from SwignWriting list. But, I only got one email from Steve.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I write this. I believe that the palm is facing the chest. But you believe that the palm is facing up. I learn about it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&bound=t&ksw=M24x18S2ff20n24xn17S14400n12xn54" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I believe that the palm is facing up below.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img src="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&bound=t&ksw=M24x18S2ff20n24xn17S14430n13xn53" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think that many signwritters believe that the palm is facing up above.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope that I will get other emails from SignWring list.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">André</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">De : </span> Stephen Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET" class="">slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Répondre à : </span> "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date : </span> Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:50:48 -0500<br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">À : </span> <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Objet : </span> Re: [SPAM] Re: Placement of Signs in Space<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class="">
<div class="">
Hi Jonathan,<br class="">
<br class="">
SignMaker 2017 supports the styling string, but it is a manual entry
process and only for creating PNG or SVG output images.<br class="">
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en">http://signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<span id="cid:part1.708400B8.47648A74@signpuddle.net"><baglbilanghogejj.png></span><br class="">
<br class="">
This example uses a styling string of "--Z01,0.5Z03,2"<br class="">
Z01,0.5 = Zoom for first symbol of 0.5.<br class="">
Z03,2 = Zoom for third symbol of 2<br class="">
<br class="">
This topic gets into the difference between plain-text and
rich-text.<br class="">
Oversimplified, plain-text focuses on meaning while rich-text adds
formatting.<br class="">
<br class="">
If you take away formatting from rich-text, you should be left with
understandable plain-text.<br class="">
<br class="">
I believe a sign should be understandable without differences in
symbol size.<br class="">
<br class="">
-Steve<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/21 10:02 AM, Jonathan Duncan
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:c09b9307-ccac-1d05-0e1a-2296b770c54f@yahoo.ca" class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class=""><div class="">Hi Adam,</div><div class=""> Actually it is presently possible to write smaller hand
shapes with the existing fonts.</div><div class="">If you go to <br class="">
</div><div class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en" moz-do-not-send="true">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en</a></div><div class="">And click on QuickSignEditor, <br class="">
</div><div class=""><span id="cid:part3.37047343.28CE7B6B@signpuddle.net"><gjpoiddbedboknkh.png></span></div><div class="">You can change the size of the symbols. It uses the styling
portion of the FSW that Steve and I created together.</div><div class=""><span id="cid:part4.137C4CF2.4FBFF45D@signpuddle.net"><pekkdjpadhklhcfe.png></span></div><div class="">Use minus in the circle button.</div><div class=""><span id="cid:part5.8A0F2EB9.F8F168C4@signpuddle.net"><babilhopiflhdnaa.png></span></div><div class="">I'm don't know if any of the other editors can change the
symbol size or not.</div><div class="">For some reason, the symbol styling isn't coming across to the
version of SignMaker I have it hosted in.</div><div class="">So the technology is there, it's probably just a matter of
adding a few more control to the editors for you to actually be
able to do it and save it in SignPuddle.</div><div class="">Steve, what is your take on this subject?</div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Jonathan<br class="">
</div><div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2021 8:31 AM, Adam Frost
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:EB853F9E-D2FA-44DC-B114-189A5EBFBE88@gmail.com" class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8" class="">
Thank you Cherie and André for your suggestions.
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Cherie, I agree that “other” team is still in
neutral space, only farther away, while “my” team is closer to
my chest. While I don’t see “my” team as actually touching my
chest, I can see your suggestion for the touch symbol. Do you
think that would make more sense than the shoulder line to
imply that the sign is at or near the chest?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">André, your overhead view does make sense as being
useful for showing depth, but the palm facing seems to be
confusing. As you had it written, it means the palm is facing
up rather than facing the chest. Unless I am wrong, the palm
facings would would be as the following:</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><span id="cid:part6.5D88C747.288AB291@signpuddle.net"><Screen Shot 2021-04-16 at 7.20.40 AM.png></span></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">If changing the view would make depth easier to
see, I think using the side view would be easier for the palm
facings.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><span id="cid:part7.7E340C51.CC3C82AD@signpuddle.net"><Screen Shot 2021-04-16 at 7.22.39 AM.png></span></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">However, I don’t know if I like changing the
viewpoint in everyday writing in such rare cases.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">However, I did notice that André combined the two
scores into one sign to show the depth. I think that this
would work (without having to change the viewpoint at all)
only if both numbers are stated together.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><span id="cid:part8.A707E339.0B1901B4@signpuddle.net"><Screen Shot 2021-04-16 at 7.25.31 AM.png></span></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I am not sure how I would write the “other” team’s
score to clearly show the depth without the viewpoint change.
I do like the idea of having it be “smaller” to show it is
farther away, but I’m not sure if that is practical either. (Just a thought, wouldn’t that just be handled by the font
much like superscripts and subscripts? This doesn’t actually
“create” more symbols when this is done. Hmm…)</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class=""> <span class=""><span id="cid:part9.9FB356F5.617DD1F9@signpuddle.net"><namesign.png></span></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Adam</span> </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:23 AM, Cherie Wren
<<a href="mailto:000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="ydp6a28c26fyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 16px;">
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">when I
sign two team scores, its usually one nearly
touching my chest (my team) and one farther
away... but still in neutral space. Perhaps a
touch symbol for the nearer "my team"?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
</div>
<div id="ydp304a5ab3yahoo_quoted_8829269316" class="ydp304a5ab3yahoo_quoted">
<div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;" class="">
<div class=""> On Thursday, April 15, 2021,
10:39:35 PM EDT, André Thibeault <<a href="mailto:atg@videotron.ca" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">atg@videotron.ca</a>> wrote: </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<div id="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106" class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">Hello Adaame and Val,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I write this:</div>
<div class=""><img src="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&bound=t&ksw=M62x61S2ff20n61xn60S2ff20n59x26S1440024xn94S10120n52xn8S14c0026xn143S14720n31xn3S15a5an58xn110S11951n46xn121S2e736n52xn137S2ff2014xn58S2650030xn111" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true" class="" moz-do-not-send="true"></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Best regards,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">André</div>
<span id="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class="">
<div style="font-family: Calibri;
font-size: 11pt; text-align: left;
border-width: 1pt medium medium;
border-style: solid none none; padding:
3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181,
196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">De :
</span> Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
noopener" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Répondre
à : </span> "SignWriting List: Read
and Write Sign Languages" <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
noopener" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Date :
</span> Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:40:47 -0700<br class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">À :
</span> <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
noopener" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Objet :
</span> Re: Placement of Signs in Space<br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
thought I recall something about the
sizing being used for depth, but I
don’t think that it would be
necessary for everyday writing. Like
I said, this situation rarely comes
up for me. ;-)</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Here
is a screen capture of what I wrote.
It is talking about two baseball
teams: The Nationals and the
Diamondbacks.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<span id="cid:q9PRmGvZ1BZonC4v32dk" class=""><Screen
Shot 2021-04-15 at 6.32.37
PM.png></span>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Notice
the last two signs are supposed to
have the depth. I feel that the
shoulder line shows the number being
closer to the body, but the other
number doesn’t have the concept of
being away from the body as it is
written.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">As
for the concepts of “teams”, ASL
makes use of placing concepts in
specific locations all the time. It
isn’t limited to names of teams.
That is the reason the lanes work so
well for this. However, it is common
for people to have their preferred
teams in sports, so that is where
the depth comes into play.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><span class=""><span id="cid:XBClBn35reJz3nLygvfq" class=""><namesign.png></span></span><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106Apple-interchange-newline" style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 12px; font-style:
normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal;
text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none;
white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px;
text-decoration: none;">
<span style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal;
text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none;
white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float:
none; display: inline
!important;" class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Adam</span></div>
<div class=""><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<blockquote type="cite" class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">On
Apr 15, 2021, at 6:17 PM,
Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
noopener" moz-do-not-send="true">0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">SignWriting
List
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">April
15, 2021</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Hello
everyone on the
SignWriting List, and
thank you for this
message, Adam ;-)</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Of
course this sounds like a
very useful way to write
“teams” in sign language,
but can you show us
written examples in
SignWriting?</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">And
since I am not a teacher
of a classroom of ASL
signers, maybe you could
explain to me (and all of
us) - what do you mean by
“teams”? Is it for writing
some kind of a game in
ASL?</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But
to answer your question -
the Lanes show us spatial
comparisons and
weight-shifting to the
“right of center” and to
the “left of center”. They
are invaluable for writing
spatial comparisons in
sign languages.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Technically
there is a Lane that is
“far in front” and one
that is “close to the
chest” - and one that is
neutral in signing space -
but over time we started
to write those differences
in “depth” with Movement
Symbols. We actually DID
have a way to write
“depth” with hand symbols
years ago, in the 1980s.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">This
was a technique that
really worked in the early
days of SignWriting, when
we were writing sign
language by hand with ink
pens. There were 3 sizes
of hand symbols - the
normal size we use
everyday is the “middle neutral space”, the
smaller version of the
symbol means “far away
from the chest” and the larger symbol means closer
to the chest. This is
based on art perspectives.
Further away is always
smaller.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
have an article about this
somewhere - I will try to
find it and post it later.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But,
as time went by, it seemed
like too much information
that was not necessary for
everyday writing, and for
computer symbol sets, it
was a real problem because
it would double or triple
the amount of symbols so
the idea of "far being
smaller" and “close being
larger” was ignored and we
have one set of symbols at
one size for everything.
The ISWA 2010 is large
enough!</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">So
how do we see “depth” in
everyday writing? Movement
Symbols and some
standardized spellings
have helped.</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">But
now - Adam - please post
some SignWriting showing
us what you have written -
many thanks!</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">Val
;-)</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
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<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
</div>
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106"><br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<blockquote type="cite" class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">On
Apr 15, 2021, at
1:22 PM, Adam Frost
<<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
noopener" moz-do-not-send="true">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">
<div class="ydp304a5ab3yiv0829676106">I
was doing some
writing in
SignWriting and
came across an
issue that I never
really thought of
in the past. In
ASL, scores can be
done by placing
the teams in a
location and then
giving the numbers
of the score in
that location. For
example, I can
have one team on
the right and
another on the
left. If I sign 4
on the right and
then 5 on the
left, it clearly
says who has what
score. This is
easily done using
the lanes in
SignWriting.
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issue came into
play when it was
giving scores
for “my team” vs
“your team”. If
I signed 4 near
my chest and
then 5 away from
me, it would
means “I have 4
and you have 5.”
When I tried to
write this, I
wrote the
shoulder line
over 4 and wrote
5 as I do
normally. This
didn’t really seem like an
issue to me
until I had a
friend asked me
how I knew that
5 was signed
away from my
body rather than
just in the
neutral location
when signing 5
on its own. I
had said I just
assumed it, but
that got me
thinking if
there was a
simple way to
write it so that
it would be
clear and didn’t
have to be
assumed. Is
there?</div>
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