<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Adam -<div class="">I appreciate your answer truly. ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I guess I meant “more than one finger” - I am not sure either - I am trying to remember why we put two different sizes in the ISWA 2010 - it was a lot of work to do that - Originally I did the dot-by-dot development for the pngs, and then you did the SVG (thank you so much, Adam ;-). So when you think about it, there had to be a reason!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For those who might be interested, Adam did videos teaching these symbols:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://youtu.be/F4wIpupyNtY" class="">https://youtu.be/F4wIpupyNtY</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will write again when I find a really good answer ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 26, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I am not sure about the meaning of “more than one”. In fact, when you put it that way, it doesn’t seem right. :-)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Like I said, I don't personally write with the smaller symbols, so it is possible I understand it wrong. :-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, I think we need to check out the older documents. :-)</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 26, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@DANCEWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@DANCEWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">SignWriting List</div><div class="">April 26, 2021</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">QUESTION: Small and large Finger Movement Symbols - does size mean how many fingers move?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">ANSWER: No. My memory was that the Size is there just for convenience when writing. Some signs need more space to write and so the smaller size is useful in those cases, and some signs look better with the larger symbol. I see Adam feels they do mean “more than one”, but no matter what, they are “one time movement”. If they move “open-open” - in other words - two movements in a row - then there are two written -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let me look up our early textbooks to be sure of all this (smile)! Did you know that the system in 46 years old? And some of these particulars evolved over time - so it would be good to review it -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What did Madson and Raquel’s book “SignWriting Without Mysteries” say?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The symbols are listed in the ISWA 2010 HTML Reference Manual Online. Here is Group 12:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/iswa/216_sg.html" class="">https://www.signbank.org/iswa/216_sg.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:23DBC8D6-97B0-4889-836D-22CF8A337286@san.rr.com" class=""><Group12.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">________________________</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">April 26, 2021</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">English Translation from Google:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 36); color: rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: "Google Sans", arial, sans-serif; white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250);" class="">Dear Valerie and Adam Frost,
A question arose among some fellow SignWriting researchers as to why these symbols have different sizes. When should we write the largest and when should we write the smallest? Does it have anything to do with the amount of fingers that move?</span></div><div class=""><span id="cid:ii_knz5qwos0" class=""><image.png></span><span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 36); color: rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: "Google Sans", arial, sans-serif; white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250);" class="">
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Josenilson Mendes</span></div><div class=""><font color="#202124" face="Google Sans, arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 36); white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font color="#202124" face="Google Sans, arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 36); white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250);" class="">____________<br class=""></span></font><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 26, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <<a href="mailto:jsm88b@gmail.com" class="">jsm88b@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Caros Valerie e Adam Frost,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Surgiu uma dúvida entre alguns colegas pesquisadores de escrita de sinais sobre a razão pela qual estes símbolos têm tamanhos diferentes. Quando devemos escrever o maior e quando escrever o menor? Tem alguma relação com a quantidade de dedos que se movem?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span id="cid:ii_knz5qwos0" class=""><image.png></span><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Grato pela atenção!</div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">Josenilson Mendes</span><br class=""></div></div></div></div>
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