<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">April 26, 2021</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Google Translation into English:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">We know that symbols of exact location are not commonly used, but they serve specific purposes for linguistic studies of sign languages. I wonder if there are any examples of using these exact location symbols in any sign language.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249); min-height: 17px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">We know that this refer to the wall plan:</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><img id="<ii_knz69p1e0>" alt="image.png" class="Apple-web-attachment Singleton" style="opacity: 1;" apple-inline="yes" src="cid:ii_knz69p1e0"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">How could I use it to describe a signal? Can anyone show me an example? Would the central point of the octagon be at hip height?</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249); min-height: 17px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">We know that these refer to the ground plane:</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="A1DE7885-A1FD-4BE2-8E02-2C49E9CBA591" src="cid:88DE6A92-AFEB-4B60-8167-05A3A154F9AF@san.rr.com" class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">How could I use it to describe a signal? Can anyone show me an example? Does the central point of the octagon refer to the axis of the body, from head to toe?</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249); min-height: 17px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">These below refer to the distance of a signal from the body in a top view, correct?</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="FEC51470-44D8-45BA-8CB2-D8CDB90C3453" src="cid:20CEA6E3-84C6-40A8-B229-3D06B325EA42@san.rr.com" class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">The dash refers to the space in front of the body where a signal is made and moves, correct?</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249); min-height: 17px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">These below refer to the height in relation to the torso at which a signal is made, correct?</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><img id="<ii_knz69h7a4>" alt="image.png" class="Apple-web-attachment Singleton" style="opacity: 1;" apple-inline="yes" src="cid:ii_knz69h7a4"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">These below relate to the longitudinal axis of the body and in what position the signal is made, correct?</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><img id="<ii_knz6qx9r6>" alt="image.png" class="Apple-web-attachment Singleton" style="opacity: 1;" apple-inline="yes" src="cid:ii_knz6qx9r6"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249); min-height: 17px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">We know that these below refer to points of contact or exact location on limbs or parts of the body.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><img id="<ii_knz5zh5t3>" alt="image.png" class="Apple-web-attachment Singleton" style="opacity: 1;" apple-inline="yes" src="cid:ii_knz5zh5t3"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><img id="<ii_knz6k88n5>" alt="image.png" class="Apple-web-attachment Singleton" style="opacity: 1;" apple-inline="yes" src="cid:ii_knz6k88n5"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">But what do the white and black circles mean? Are the circles related to the perspective of the sign? Is there an example?</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249); min-height: 17px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Is there any video or written material about these exact location symbols?</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249); min-height: 17px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Thank you for the answers!</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(24, 25, 27); background-color: rgb(246, 247, 249);" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">-------------</span></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 26, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <<a href="mailto:jsm88b@gmail.com" class="">jsm88b@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Caros amigos da SW-List, Valerie e Adam,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sabemos que os símbolos de localização exata não são de uso corrente, mas servem para fins específicos de estudos linguísticos de línguas de sinais. Gostaria de saber se há algum exemplo de uso destes símbolos de localização exata em qualquer língua de sinais.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sabemos que este se referem ao plano parede:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><img apple-inline="yes" id="ECAB6F02-C7C7-4AB5-9F7B-4FE5435BFD9C" src="cid:ii_knz69p1e0" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Como eu poderia usá-lo para descrever um sinal? Alguém pode me mostrar um exemplo? O ponto central do octógono estaria na altura do quadril?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sabemos que este se referem ao plano chão: <br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><img apple-inline="yes" id="03B0AAB5-8306-4BFF-BD4C-43911989BAF4" src="cid:ii_knz5a06z1" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default">Como eu poderia usá-lo para descrever um sinal? Alguém pode me mostrar um exemplo? O ponto central do octógono se refere ao eixo do corpo, da cabeça aos pés?</div><div class="gmail_default"></div><div class="gmail_default"></div></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">E<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">stes abaixo se referem à distância da realização de um sinal em relação ao corpo em uma visão de cima, correto?</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="31E9CA3D-89CF-46A5-8272-43E18692FC5B" src="cid:ii_knz5ok0p2" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">O traço se refere ao espaço à frente do corpo onde um sinal é realizado e se move, correto?</div><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Estes abaixo se referem à altura em relação ao torso em que se realiza um sinal, correto?</div><img apple-inline="yes" id="1333AD98-1F03-4397-A1A9-8E85D7B7C03A" src="cid:ii_knz69h7a4" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Estes abaixo se relacionam ao eixo longitudinal do corpo e em que posição o sinal é realizado, correto?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><img apple-inline="yes" id="AC0DEA46-C6AE-46DE-9781-EAB084F32F25" src="cid:ii_knz6qx9r6" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sabemos que estes abaixo se referem a pontos de contato ou localização exata em membros ou partes do corpo.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><img apple-inline="yes" id="C77C7FE2-DB44-4E77-BE79-4D226C870E5F" src="cid:ii_knz5zh5t3" class=""><br class=""></div><img apple-inline="yes" id="002EDE6E-C30B-47C8-BDF9-B2F05189B3AB" src="cid:ii_knz6k88n5" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Mas o que significam os círculos branco e o preto? Os círculos estão relacionados à perspectiva do sinalizante? Há algum exemplo?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Existe algum material em vídeo ou escrito sobre estes símbolos de localização exata?</div><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Já agradeço pelas respostas!</div><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></span>Josenilson Mendes</span><br class=""></div></div></div></div>
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