<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">Sutthikhun,</span><div class=""><font color="#000000" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font color="#000000" class="">I have a question for you about GOOD LUCK. Are the facial expressions obligatory, meaning does the sign become unable to be understood if they are not included?</font></div><div class=""><font color="#000000" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#000000" class="">I realize that this is something that can only be answered by a native user, and I don’t know if you are or not. The reason I ask is that I know that in ASL there are often has facial expressions that are necessary for signs to be understood, but not always. I have found that “emotive” expressions are not necessary unless writing a narrative or story. So a dictionary entry might not necessarily have “emotive" expression written even if the videos have them. (I also include mouth movement left over from spoken languages as “emotive” expressions as well, but there may be times where it is an obligatory expression instead, so it is left up to the native users to decide.)</font></div><div class=""><font color="#000000" class=""><br class=""></font><div class="">

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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 24, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <<a href="mailto:suttikunep@GMAIL.COM" class="">suttikunep@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Exactly, that was me adding some Thai signs to the ThSL SP Online after you suggested me for the website. It's so fun and useful. 😄 Your transcription is also interesting and the comment sounds reasonable to me. Thanks again! Anyway, I don't understand the term "one compound sign". I'm curious about how the compound form would be if the two signs were used together?</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><span id="cid:ii_kp2zpfg74"><thank you.png></span><br class=""><div class="">Sutthikhun<br class=""></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 23:48, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">May 24, 2021</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here is how I would write the Thai sign for Good Luck, based on the video:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thai sign for GOOD LUCK on video</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=15&sTrm=Good+luck&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&" target="_blank" class="">https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=15&sTrm=Good+luck&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are two signs really. In the first sign, I chose a different handshape and I placed the fingers directed down towards the palm of the base hand so we can see that the fingers are directed down. I used a Touch Star to show contact with the fingers. I also chose not to write a thumb for the base hand since it is not important to the sign.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And I did not put an UP arrow between the two signs since we read down the page so the next sign assumes the hand had to move up.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:1799fbf6e163ab369621"><Thai_Sign_GOOD_LUCK_2.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are other ways to see this. If the two signs are always used together, it could be written as one compound sign, and that would look different.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I placed this writing in the Thailand SignPuddle Online so now there are two different entries for GOOD LUCK. Scroll down to see them:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Good luck</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=15,18&sTrm=Good+luck&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&" target="_blank" class="">https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=15,18&sTrm=Good+luck&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div>________________________________________________

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