<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yes, the beginning and ending handshapes can make the movement arrows less complex. ;-)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I know that there are times in ASL where one of the two handshapes would not be written because it is understood that the movement aren’t just “straight forward” because the sign is commonly known and doesn’t have another sign that could be confused with it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There is always a tug between writing exact details and writing as simple and easy as possible. Sometimes I do several tries to see how much detail is needed and how much can be done without. We get better as we write more and share with other writers. ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">

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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 23, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <<a href="mailto:suttikunep@GMAIL.COM" class="">suttikunep@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Hi Adam! Thanks for your answer. I just realized about my sign that the side of both palms on face was wrong. And your sign looks more straightforward! Thank you to let me know that the different hand gestures between the initial and the final positions can represent a transitory movement. ;)</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, 06:41 Adam Frost, <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" class="">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">I have not personally seen an ASL sign for Mosque. I have seen some who have borrowed from other regions, but none that are commonly used in ASL (as far as I have seen).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In any case, I took a look at your video and writing. If I were writing what I saw, I would have written this:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img id="m_-3489976205075534365DA0A460E-B15F-4D9C-B26C-7E7F362B2AE1" width="80" height="202" src="cid:AF7192C7-37D2-47E1-B80E-1BBD061E80AA" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">

<span class=""><img id="m_-34899762050755343658D3F4B43-2B8B-49BE-8F1C-A3999EA54BE5" src="cid:BC7FF2BE-B327-4618-B076-E92B91C176BA@home" class=""></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Adam</span>

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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 23, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <<a href="mailto:suttikunep@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">suttikunep@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hello SW List members, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've just submitted the latest Thai sign for the word "Mosque" or "Masjid", a place of worship for Muslims, to SignPuddle Online. I found that this sign looks so complicated and beautiful at the same time, and it seems that even the ASL SW dictionary doesn't have this sign but a finger-spelling one. Do you think this sign in ThaiSL is similar to the sign "Mosque" in your native SL(s)? I'm not sure if I wrote the sign right, so any comments, corrections, and suggestions are welcome!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Link to SP Online: <a href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=70" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">SignPuddle (signbank.org)</a></div><div class="">Link to youtube: <a href="https://youtu.be/tYY0b8h6OCc?t=53" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://youtu.be/tYY0b8h6OCc?t=53</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="m_-3489976205075534365cid:ii_kqa2qjkl0" class=""><sign (27).png></span><br class=""></div><div class="">Sutthikhun (Ae)</div></div>

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