<div dir="auto">Hi! Valerie and everyone! I'm excited about it. Face directions, it's so interesting. I would like to know more about it.<div dir="auto">Melquiedes.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em ter, 17 de ago de 2021 10:39, André Thibeault <<a href="mailto:atg@videotron.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">atg@videotron.ca</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div>Hello Val and everyone,</div><div><br></div><div>An illustration helps me understand the symbol below.</div><div><br></div><div><img src="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&bound=t&ksw=M18x22S30801n18xn22">  <img src="cid:B94F6445-A5FD-44DE-864D-0DE98EF98AAD" type="image/jpg"></div><div><br></div><div>Do you have facial directions and head positions with illustrations below?</div><div><br></div><div><img src="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&bound=t&ksw=M123x103S30901n119xn103S30911n74xn86S30902n123xn48S30912n70xn33S30903n123x4S30913n66x25S30905n123x61S30915n69x79S3090617xn103S3091676xn85S3090d21xn35S3091d70xn14S3090e11x43S3091e62x63"></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>André</div><div><br></div><span id="m_8055450576661393793m_4705589011422338134OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">De : </span> Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@DANCEWRITING.ORG" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sutton@DANCEWRITING.ORG</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Répondre à : </span> "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date : </span> Sun, 15 Aug 2021 11:19:06 -0700<br><span style="font-weight:bold">À : </span> <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet : </span> Head Positions: Face Direction Lines<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">SignWriting List<div>August 15, 2021</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Josenilson, Ae, Suzanne, and everyone -</div><div><br></div><div>It is good we are talking about this. Thank you, Ae, for posting DanceWriting documents. A new topic of discussion has emerged: Writing Head Positions and Head Movements, which are needed when we write mime, dance, sign languages, and sports and body language too.</div><div><br></div><div>The symbols that are in the attached diagram are Head Positions. They are static positions, written with a little line, called the “Face Direction Line”, placed on the Shoulder Line, showing the direction of the nose.</div><div><br></div><div>Head Movements are written differently, usually with Head Circles. We can discuss Head Movements in another thread.</div><div><br></div><div>Face Direction Lines (Head Positions) are explained on these links:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Lessons in SignWriting Textbook, page 176.</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>2. Writing Full Body Movement: Face Direction Line</div><div><a href="https://www.movementwriting.org/lessons/fullbody/fullbody07.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.movementwriting.org/lessons/fullbody/fullbody07.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>3. Learn To Transcribe Sign Language in SignWriting</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe003.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe003.html</a></div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe004.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe004.html</a></div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe005.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe005.html</a></div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe006.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe006.html</a> (Face Direction Lines)</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe007.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe007.html</a> (Face Direction Lines)</div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe008.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/transcribe/scribe008.html</a> (Face Direction Lines)</div><div><br></div><div>…and then I never finished the lessons… but more can always be added…</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>4. ISWA 2010 Reference Manual</div><div>Category 4: Head and Face</div><div><a href="https://www.signbank.org/iswa/2ff_sg.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signbank.org/iswa/2ff_sg.html</a></div><div>Scroll down to see BaseSymbols 520, 521 and 522. So many symbols!</div><div><br></div><div>Keep asking questions!</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>---------------</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 14, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <<a href="mailto:jsm88b@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jsm88b@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi, Valerie and everyone on <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">SignWriting List!</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">This is very good!</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><img id="m_8055450576661393793m_4705589011422338134B841B2AF-948B-4D7A-91C2-7C1DF31A3D06" src="cid:ii_kschkk9f3"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Where can I find out more about facial directions and head position with illustrations?</span></div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Josenilson Mendes</span><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em sáb., 14 de ago. de 2021 às 14:25, Suzanne Pach <<a href="mailto:suzannepach@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">suzannepach@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Val and Ae for the explanation. Very interesting :)<div><br></div><div>Suzanne</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 11:06 PM Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>SignWriting List<div>August 9, 2021</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you, Suzanne and Ae, for this discussion. It is fun to think about why this happened. To explain:</div><div><br></div><div>Ae is correct. DanceWriting started first, and at that time, in the early 1970s, ballet was and is still very stylized. Facial expressions and even head movements were not as important as the rest of the body, and so, by placing the Head Circle to the left or right of the rest of the body on the 5-lined staff, we could write classical ballet on a 5-lined staff, under the music notes or counts, without our Head Circle in the way of the rhythm.</div><div><br></div><div>I realize this is surprising to those who write sign languages, like we do today, but here are some examples of the writing at that time, in Denmark in the 1970s. There were no personal computers yet, no cell phones, no digitizing fast, and so by hand it was easier to write this way: See diagrams attached. We used wax transfer sheets. The Facial Direction Line was easy to write by hand like a little line crossing the shoulders showing the direction of the nose:</div><div><br></div><div><img id="m_8055450576661393793m_47055890114223381344046502B-4B72-49E1-B81F-690BC42ACD5F" src="cid:17b45b14028c8438ea41"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img id="m_8055450576661393793m_47055890114223381340A32B3FA-5151-4788-BBDC-3259F9837371" src="cid:17b45b140297c510fbf2"></div><div><br></div><div><img id="m_8055450576661393793m_4705589011422338134DC01A094-32AF-48AA-8FA0-9C1AE2D7880D" src="cid:17b45b1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