<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello Ae and Val,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have added the list that I wrote to the Thai Dictionary SignPuddle. It is listed as Thai Vowels for now. This can be used to copy individual writings for the specific Thai letter in the future.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I also included a second version (in the same entry), which may or may not be correct and doesn’t have to be used as well. The second version is actually inspired by Ae’s comment about detailed digit positions and the idea of simplicity used for BSL fingerspelling.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here is the direct link:</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=131" class="">https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=34&sid=131</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Looking forward to your thoughts about these writings, Ae. ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 5, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree. That seems good ;-)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 5, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Playing around with the rotation, I think this is the most readable. The only question is if it would be acceptable by Thai signers. ;-)<br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:EFC5A68A-FBB0-432B-A4EB-3B5D2A2780A2"><Screen Shot 2021-09-05 at 12.52.45 PM.png></span><br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:BC7FF2BE-B327-4618-B076-E92B91C176BA@home"><namesign.png></span><br class="">Adam<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 5, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List<br class="">September 5, 2021<br class=""><br class="">Hi Adam and Ae -<br class=""><br class="">Thank you, Adam! This is really well done and easy to read. I will leave this to you guys to talk about and decide. I am just the observer ;-)<br class=""><br class="">As a foreign observer, reading these positions for the first time, there is only one that might be hard for me to read. It is the second column third sign down - the one in the middle of the second column. Is the index finger touching between the baby finger and the ring finger? If the symbol was reduced in size for printing documents, it might be hard to read but if there is no alternative that is ok too ;-)<br class=""><br class="">And are there any rubbing or brushing off? I see you have one with a right arrow, that I am assuming is brushing off? That is simple writing and I can see that the brush symbol is not really necessary if people realize the arrowhead is dark for the right hand moving…<br class=""><br class="">So cool!<br class=""><br class="">Val ;-)<br class=""><br class="">PS. Are these entered into Thai Sign Language SignPuddle?<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">---------<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">I saw Valerie’s message about your question and think I might have something to reply now. ;-)<br class=""><br class="">I really had to think about how I would write this detail of writing for a while. As I don’t know ThaiSL, I am mainly basing this off of the video link that you sent. I wrote the first 10 shown. From your image, it seems there are more than that but hopefully this will give you some ideas.<br class=""><br class="">I tried to write these so they fit as closely as possible to what was in the video while still being readable. (I am not sure if I always succeeded in my attempt, but it's a start.)<br class=""><br class=""><Screen Shot 2021-09-05 at 11.39.54 AM.png><br class=""><br class=""><namesign.png><br class="">Adam<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Aug 31, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <<a href="mailto:suttikunep@GMAIL.COM" class="">suttikunep@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hello SWList members!<br class=""><br class="">Today I have a question regarding how to write the right index finger touching a part of the left hand's palm and fingers.<br class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• ThaiSL fingerspelling for vowels, tone marks, and other symbols is shown in the photo and video link below. The right index finger is used to indicate a vowel or a tone mark of a syllable on a part of the left hand's palm or fingers.<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• There appear to be symbols used in the SignMaker to write the detailed digit location, but I'm not clear how to use them since I couldn't find a description in the SW Textbook.<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• So, which SW symbols should these gestures be written with, and how should they be written?<br class=""></div><image.png><br class="">Link: <a href="https://youtu.be/6eLfibTBiZQ?t=717" class="">https://youtu.be/6eLfibTBiZQ?t=717</a> (from 11:57)<br class=""><br class="">Thank you so much in advance!<br class="">I look forward to receiving your responses, <br class=""><sign (14).png><br class="">Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">________________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<br class=""><br class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator <a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a><br class=""><br class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List: <a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a><br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page <a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a><br class=""><br class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages <a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" class="">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">________________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<br class=""><br class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator <a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a><br class=""><br class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List: <a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a><br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page <a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a><br class=""><br class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages <a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" class="">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></div></div>________________________________________________
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