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<p>This occurred to me today, but I saw an orbit once where the
Earth was snaking around in orbit. I think the center of the
earth in orbit may be more like a corkscrew or slinky wire
though. That's not why we have seasons.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/21 7:42 PM, Física em Libras
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">I got it, but I really need
this angle, I'm trying to explain why we have seasons, and
it's because of the angle that the Earth spins around itself,
and also because of the angle with the horizontal plane that
Earth moves around the Sun, and that the Sun is not at the
center of the translation. So I can have all the important
details for "orbit" explained. I don't know if it's
clear now, but thank you so much for trying to help me.</div>
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need to write this angle.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em seg., 13 de set. de 2021 às
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Ok. So the handshapes
are in front of the body and tilted forward so that the
finger side of the hand is lower than the wrist. Hmm…
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<div>If you are writing for everyday use, I would suggest
sticking to wall or floor plane by using whichever one
would imply the tilting forward the best. It could be the
wall plane to show that the fingers are lower than the
wrist because this placement of the hand is rarely used in
this extreme but when relaxed becomes the angle you
referred to, for example.</div>
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<div>However, if you are writing for that specific 45 degree
tilt detailed representation, you might need to use
detailed symbols. I’m not sure that location symbols would
suffice for you, but the symbol you used mean the height
from the signer on the upper righthand side. It doesn’t
mean the angle of the hand.</div>
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<div>It would be parallel to your body but angled
45° considering your shoulder line. Rotation on
floor or wall plane I can understand, but how
can I show a oblique plane between them? <br>
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de set de 2021 13:53, Adam Frost <<a
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Vanessa,
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<div>I just want to make sure I understand
what you are asking before I suggest a
writing.</div>
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<div>If I were to look down at my hands
doing this configuration from the top
view, I would see them angled from by
body about 45 degrees rather than
parallel to my body. Is that correct?</div>
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Física em Libras <<a
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style="font-family:"trebuchet
ms",sans-serif;font-size:large">I need to write this sign but I
don't know how to write it on
the "floor plane" but show
this angle with the
horizontal.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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