<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="">SignWriting List</div><div class="">November 27, 2021</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hi Jonathan -</div><div class="">Thank you for this information about programming with FSW. Glad it works so well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And many thanks to Steve Slevinski, for providing us with multiple formats…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And the issue of Handwriting recognition is also very interesting - Look forward to learning more about OCR and OGR too -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks everyone!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">_________________</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 27, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Jonathan Duncan <<a href="mailto:00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Val,<br class=""><br class=""> A comment about FSW vs SWU. I found in my programming that FSW is way easier to work within a program, then it's easy to convert to or from SWU when needed to share with other programs if necessary.<br class=""><br class="">Jonathan</blockquote></div>_______________<div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 27, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Valerie Sutton <0000001342802f5f-dmarc-<a href="mailto:request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List<br class="">November 27, 2021<br class=""><br class="">Hello Jonathan, Amit and everyone -<br class=""><br class="">There was a presentation in the SignWriting Symposium 2014, on a new idea called “OGR”:<br class=""><br class="">Presentation 33 by Fabrizio Borgia and Maria De Marsico<br class=""><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0033.html" class="">https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0033.html</a><br class=""><br class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="C6CC0FEB-0CC7-414C-B190-BE28FE5C8B8B" width="338" height="479" src="cid:BA0ED310-DDF2-4760-BB7D-A5C0D4638666" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">______________<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 27, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Jonathan Duncan <00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Amit,<br class=""><br class=""> That great that you have developed and OCR tool for Signwriting images to FSW. Have you tried it at all with hand writing? There was a project a few years back that they had managed to recognize various symbols but I don't believe it was ever finished . OCR recognition would be another fast way to input signs if it could work properly. Do you have an easy way for feeding the OCR training data?<br class=""><br class="">Jonathan<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_________<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">On 11/27/2021 9:47 AM, Amit Moryossef wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Happy holidays :)<br class="">I have work that uses FSW or SWU, it’s very easy to convert thanks to Steve.<br class=""><br class="">The data in Sign2MINT is PNG, but I have developed an OCR tool today to convert PNG back to FSW so I can use their data.<br class=""><br class="">I have a feeling (and some inside knowledge I’ll share at a later time) that you are right about 2022 😊<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">__________<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 24, 2021, at 4:03 AM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher@GMAIL.COM> wrote:<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hello dear Amit,<br class="">I am glad that you came across our website and would like to use the data elsewhere. <br class="">I know your project. <br class=""><br class="">You are right, it is much better to work with Unicode instead of SymbolIds. There are many reasons for that, yes.<br class="">And that's why our goal is also to move to Unicode (SWU). I can't say when that will be, but we plan to start shortly. <br class=""><br class="">I will write here when the conversion is done and <br class="">sign2mint.de<br class=""> contains SWU. <br class=""><br class="">Kind regards<br class="">Uta<br class=""><br class="">________<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef@gmail.com> schrieb am Mi., 24. Nov. 2021, 11:02:<br class="">Welcome, Uta!<br class="">It's great to see the sign2mint project expanding :)<br class=""><br class="">Back in July, I wrote a dataset loader for sign2mint.<br class="">Unfortunately, one thing I noticed, is that the way you store(/show) SignWriting on your website is in image form, including symbol IDs, but not actually including SignWriting in FSW or SWU forms.<br class="">I think including SignWriting in those formats will make it more usable (copy/paste functionality, search, etc)<br class="">For now, I am referencing your Gebärdenschrift as images, but hoping you will add textual forms in the future.<br class=""><br class="">Amit<br class=""></blockquote>________________________________________________</blockquote></div></body></html>________________________________________________
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