<div dir="ltr">Hi Jonathan,<br>I have developed something quite crude, to only detect computer-written SignWriting using what's called "template matching".<div>I never attempted handwritten SignWriting OCR, and it's not on my work plan for the current future... </div><div>My apologies if I got your hopes up regarding this area :) It would be great to have such a tool someday.</div><div>(btw if you are curious at how I would do it:</div><div>1. take some handwritten signwriting and matching computer writing</div><div>2. train a GAN to take any signwriting and convert it to look like handwritten</div><div>3. convert all of signbank, then train an OCR model)</div><div><br></div><div>Amit</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 6:17 PM Jonathan Duncan <<a href="mailto:00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Val,<br>
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A comment about FSW vs SWU. I found in my programming that FSW is <br>
way easier to work within a program, then it's easy to convert to or <br>
from SWU when needed to share with other programs if necessary.<br>
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Jonathan<br>
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On 11/27/2021 9:39 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:<br>
> SignWriting List<br>
> November 27, 2021<br>
><br>
> Hello SignWriting List Members!<br>
><br>
> I hope all those in the US who celebrated Thanksgiving on the 25th of November had a wonderful time with family and friends. I had a memorable Thanksgiving with old friends and I ate way too much!!<br>
><br>
> I feel thankful for all of you, who are doing such important work writing sign languages around the world. Your messages are an inspiration to me and I am sure others too. I have a feeling the year 2022 will be groundbreaking in new developments.<br>
><br>
> I am reading every message carefully now.<br>
><br>
> My first question is …. Which format do you use, Amit, for your work with SignWriting in animation… FSW (Formal SignWriting) or SWU (SignWriting Unicode)?<br>
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> Val ;-)<br>
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>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 2:01 AM, Amit Moryossef <<a href="mailto:amitmoryossef@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">amitmoryossef@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Welcome, Uta!<br>
>> It's great to see the sign2mint project expanding :)<br>
>><br>
>> Back in July, I wrote a dataset loader for sign2mint.<br>
>> Unfortunately, one thing I noticed, is that the way you store(/show) SignWriting on your website is in image form, including symbol IDs, but not actually including SignWriting in FSW or SWU forms.<br>
>> I think including SignWriting in those formats will make it more usable (copy/paste functionality, search, etc)<br>
>> For now, I am referencing your Gebärdenschrift as images, but hoping you will add textual forms in the future.<br>
>><br>
>> Amit<br>
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>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 5:27 PM Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> November 14, 2021<br>
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>> Hello Uta Meissner, from the DELEGS and Sign2Mint projects in Germany!<br>
>><br>
>> And hello everyone on the SignWriting List.<br>
>><br>
>> Welcome, Uta, as a new member of our SW List ;-)<br>
>><br>
>> I truly look forward to sharing SignWriting with you and your wonderful team, and also with everyone here on the SignWriting List, at the same time. It is so helpful to share ideas together.<br>
>><br>
>> We will definitely have a lively exchange together, just as our beloved Stefan Woehrmann did with all of us, years ago. These exchanges help the system grow.<br>
>><br>
>> I send all my gratitude and thanks to the Signwriters of Germany and the world, for your contributions to creating a truly useful writing system for sign languages.<br>
>><br>
>> First, I want to make sure, Uta, that you can find your messages on the SignWriting List. You mentioned to me on Gitter, that you did not know where to find your messages…<br>
>><br>
>> Did you find this one? Tell us if you can find your messages. There are different settings. I make sure that I always see my own posts...<br>
>><br>
>> If you go back to this page:<br>
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>> Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages <a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><br>
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>> If you choose Regular (No Digest), can you see your own posts?<br>
>><br>
>> Val ;-)<br>
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>>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 6:04 AM, Uta Meißner <<a href="mailto:uta.hielscher@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">uta.hielscher@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Dear people interested in signwriting,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am Uta and I work with signwriting in the project delegs (Deutsch lernen mit Gebärdenschrift -> learning German with signwriting). <a href="https://delegs.de/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://delegs.de/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> The project delegs creates the website <a href="http://sign2mint.de" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sign2mint.de</a>, which is a lexicon for MINT. It should contain about 5000 signs by the end of April 2022. In video format and also signwriting.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Our motivation is to be able to quickly find a sign you are looking for in the lexicon. That means, one selects symbols, which contains a signwriting and results with selected symbols are displayed.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Our challenge is to transcribe a sign in such a way that, if possible, all users would choose the same symbols and the sign search would be a success.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am looking forward to a lively exchange with you :)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Many greetings Uta<br>
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