<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">SignWriting List<div class="">January 26, 2022</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello SignWriting List and Uta!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you, Uta, for this wonderful message. Let me answer one question at a time. And I certainly hope others will answer too ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I love your work and look forward to long hours studying it ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Meanwhile, your first question below about how to write fast reduplicated movement.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Attached is my diagram. I saw the video. When a movement is 2 very fast with an emphasis on one direction, we write it this way, with two arrows in one direction. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="516CD5FC-196E-4F7A-8D7F-267761490771" src="cid:7F08A178-2B11-4F5C-9626-596E31EEF05B" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="DE4B372C-8686-4B9D-ABEF-6168A9B6EBE5" width="640" height="383" src="cid:DC5EE7E8-FD17-4109-BA9B-369837E2D4AE" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">______________</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Geschwindigkeit (speed):<br class=""><a href="https://sign2mint.de/entry/Geschwindigkeit/5750242766511595:118" class="">https://sign2mint.de/entry/Geschwindigkeit/5750242766511595:118</a><br class=""><br class="">This gesture contains a reduplicated movement -> M +. <br class="">Do you see it the same way? <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="">____________</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:16 AM, Uta Meißner <<a href="mailto:uta.hielscher@GMAIL.COM" class="">uta.hielscher@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi all,<br class=""><br class="">I'm interested to know if you guys think of the model when you're transcribing a gesture. I usually don't. But I think it might be a good idea to consider this model. Only, I have trouble determining the correct M-H syllable in some signs. <br class=""><br class="">For a common understanding there are examples:<br class=""><br class="">- Geschwindigkeit (speed):<br class=""><a href="https://sign2mint.de/entry/Geschwindigkeit/5750242766511595:118" class="">https://sign2mint.de/entry/Geschwindigkeit/5750242766511595:118</a><br class=""><br class="">This gesture contains a reduplicated movement -> M +. <br class="">Do you see it the same way? <br class=""><br class="">- Default<br class="">https://sign2mint.de/entry/Default/8088731661663380:55<br class=""><br class="">This gesture contains a reduplicated movement with hold -> MH +.<br class="">Do you see it like this?<br class=""><br class="">Impuls:<br class="">https://sign2mint.de/entry/Impuls/5750242766511595:801<br class=""><br class="">This gesture contains a simple movement with hold -> MH<br class=""><br class="">I'm not sure when a hold is when there is a simple contact (*) or when the movement is stopped (~). <br class=""><br class="">So, now I come to a problem:<br class="">Which syllable has this sign? HMH ? or MH +<br class="">https://sign2mint.de/entry/Daten/8088731661663380:40<br class=""><br class="">Which syllable has this sign? <br class=""><span id="cid:ii_kyvlwp3h0"><image.png></span><br class="">HMH<br class="">or<br class=""><span id="cid:ii_kyvlxyrs1"><image.png></span><br class="">MH + but in different places<br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:ii_kyvm141d3"><image.png></span><br class="">or this signwriting. HMH. <br class=""><br class="">Which sign writing do you prefer. Or would you write the sign differently.<br class=""><br class="">I can't tell when the gesture starts. When the right hand already arrives at the left hand or before. <br class="">Is it possible to determine this for sure using The LIddell and Johnson Movement-Hold Model?<br class=""><br class="">It is important to me that the gesture can be found safely by most users via signsearch. <br class=""><br class="">What movement symbols would you choose:<br class="">There are 5 different movement tracks in signsearch:<br class="">- straight motion trace<br class="">- wavy motion trace<br class="">- angular motion trace<br class="">- circular motion track<br class="">- spiral motion track<br class=""><br class="">Which sign writing do you prefer. Or would you write the sign differently. <br class=""><br class="">It is important to me that the sign can be found via signsearch. <br class=""><br class="">What movement symbols would you choose:<br class="">There are 5 different motion traces in signsearch:<br class="">- straight motion trace<br class="">- wavy motion trace<br class="">- angular motion trace<br class="">- circular motion track<br class="">- spiral motion track<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">It is important to me that the sign search works well, that a searched sign is found with only a few selected symbols. And this is really the case with many signs. :) We are very proud of this, but we want to make it even better. :) <br class=""><br class="">I am looking forward to your knowledge and experience. :)<br class=""><br class="">Best regards <br class="">and a nice day to all of you</blockquote></div></body></html>________________________________________________
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