<div dir="auto">Oh sorry, no images?<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">Signwriting EXCITED</div><div dir="auto">Signwriting SEARCH</div><div dir="auto">Both images contain crossed ")" </div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Uta Meißner <<a href="mailto:uta.hielscher@gmail.com">uta.hielscher@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am Do., 27. Jan. 2022, 21:51:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi all,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think, Dynamics can be divided into 2 subgroups. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That of a group includes all the properties that describe the movements.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have to say, that I didn't occupy myself so much. I think, the reason is simple.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My team has written down some of the signs at signdict and there are hardly any signs that need these symbols. And signs like "fast" and "slow", this we sign with normal speed. </div><div dir="auto">It is probably simply because we work with the lexicon and do not write texts. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The second subgroup contains symbols, which say, what the left hand does. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here, I have a problem with crossed ")" - > un even Alternation. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I can only say that I do not know a single gesture that would belong to this category in the book by Stefan wöhrmann, there is an example: Leiter. But I say I behave them like a bicycle</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I found the following examples at signpuddle. I can do something asl and I would say the new signs belong to the category "alternating lines". <br><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><img alt="">. <img alt=""><br></div></div></div><br>Maybe I didn't quite understand the definition. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I miss a Symbol for 2-hand, that means, that left hand dont move. Now I think "~" does not fit. This characteristic is enormously important in order to be successful in the sign search. This Symbol can be only a small point. :)</div><div dir="auto">I also think that s helps to read the sign script faster. Like parallel, symmetric and alternatic symbols. </div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Greetings Uta</div><div dir="auto"><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> schrieb am Do., 27. Jan. 2022, 18:43:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">SignWriting List<div>January 27, 2022</div><div><br></div><div>Hi Uta and Steve, and everyone on the SignWriting List:</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for bringing Dynamic Symbols into discussion. They are very important symbols. And Steve has described them so well that you probably don't even need more input but I could tell you a little bit about why the symbols were developed the way they are.</div><div><br></div><div>Plus there are many documents on the web created by writers discussing Dynamic Symbols. For example if you go to <a href="http://signwriting.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">signwriting.org</a>, on the front page, you will notice a search field. Put in the word “dynamics" and search <a href="http://signwriting.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">signwriting.org</a> and you will find a long listing of documents discussing the use of Dynamic Symbols.</div><div><br></div><div>For example here is a document by Natasha Escalada Westland. Thank you, Natasha!</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/archive/symposium/sws0009_Lesson_11_SignWriting_in_Classrooms_2003-2014_Escalada_Westland.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.signwriting.org/archive/symposium/sws0009_Lesson_11_SignWriting_in_Classrooms_2003-2014_Escalada_Westland.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>I will create a lesson on the Tension Symbol and post it soon. You may feel you already know it well, but actually the Tension Symbol is one of the most dynamc and versatile symols in SignWriting. And its versatility is what makes it so useful, for all movement writing...</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>--------<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 27, 2022, at 6:00 AM, Stephen Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET</a>> wrote:<br><br>Hi Uta,<br><br>I'm making a new thread for this discussion and opening it up to the group.<br><br>Category 3 of the ISWA 2010 is the dynamics.<br>Here is the text used to describe this category.<br><br>'Dynamics Symbols are used to give the "feeling" or "tempo" to movement. They provide emphasis on a movement or expression, and combined with Punctuation Symbols become the equivalent to Exclamation Points. The Tension Symbol, combined with Contact Symbols, provides the feeling of "pressure", and combined with facial expressions can place emphasis or added feeling to an expression. Timing symbols are used to show alternating or simultaneous movement.'<br><br><img id="m_7969705081854246669m_39015278455446167344B60AB83-4DA1-478C-901C-E5F9741F0311"><br><br>The "Tense" symbol adds a feeling to the sign.<br><br>The whole sign would need to be considered to understand if the hand stops after movement, or if the hand is moved under tension, or if the hand doesn't move.<br><br>-Steve<br><br>On 1/26/22 11:51 PM, Uta Meißner wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">To the sign ~<br><br>I know that ~ has several meanings:<br><br>- Hand stops after movement<br>- Hand is moved under tension<br>- Hand doesn't move<br><br>And I don't like <br><br>I don't like this fact because it's important because of the sign search that each symbol has only one meaning. Therefore we decided to choose the 3rd meaning because that seems to us to be the most important. For 2-hand. There are 5 properties. One of them is a resting hand. Since the information is unimportant for own but right hand, we have agreed that symbol ~ property "resting recessive hand" to order. <br><br>So, now you know my motivation for why we solved it this way. <br>My feeling tells me it's not a good way to make our own rules. <br><br><br>Therefore, take a step back:<br>Why does a symbol have multiple meanings? 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