<div dir="auto">Hi all,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have a wish for further enlargement: 🙂 🙂 <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think it's great that there are symbols the dynamics of the two hands. At first I thought why more symbols. They don't bring more information. But now, I don't look so closely at where the arrowheads are. No, this magic ")" is a very big help. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am interested in the story of the introduction of dynamic-symbols for 2-hand gestures. 🙂 </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And why s is not a symbol for ressesive hand, which is one's rests (don't move). </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I need this. and this Symbol should be a little point. this should remember on a nail. 🙂 Very simple. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What do you think? </div><div dir="auto">and you, Adam, the inventor of null-Symbol 🙂 </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards </div><div dir="auto">Uta</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Uta Meißner <<a href="mailto:uta.hielscher@gmail.com">uta.hielscher@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am So., 30. Jan. 2022, 18:12:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Hi Stephen, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A question of understanding:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A maximum of 2 hand shapes may be entered per character, so that there is one dominant and one rezessiv hand. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When writing a sign script, I have to make sure that the dominant hand is entered first, then the recessive hand. Only by the order alone hands are recognized as either dominant or recessive hand. Correct? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sometimes you have to enter end-hand shape, because otherwise it is not clear what the end-hand shape looks like. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I.e. when writing, you always have to consciously enter the zero symbol if it is a one-hand gesture. The null symbol is not entered automatically, right? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The fact that there is a zero symbol is definitely great for the sign search. </div><div dir="auto">🙂 </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But I need your creative minds on how to incorporate the zero symbol into the sign search. Normally, a selected symbol is always entered in the search field. Only that there is no picture for it, you can not click on it and see the feedback in the search field. 🙈 </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sign2mint.de has a toggle to choose between Iswa and drawing. For drawing, it is easy, a new image can be created with just one hand. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards! </div><div dir="auto">Uta</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Stephen Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>> schrieb am So., 30. Jan. 2022, 17:26:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi SignWriting List,<br>
<br>
Today I posted a new revision of the internet draft: <br>
draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting.<br>
It includes two changes.<br>
<br>
First, I've removed part of the styling string for individual symbol <br>
zoom and offset.<br>
When I first added this feature, I thought it was a good idea.<br>
However, this feature creates problems and complicates simple processing.<br>
Last month I finally realized why it was such a problem.<br>
I couldn't find any workable solutions, so I decided to remove it.<br>
I will be updating the available software packages in the near future.<br>
One step back, two steps forward.<br>
<br>
Second, I've added a proposal for a new "null symbol".<br>
This was inspired by discussions with Adam Frost and his ideas about <br>
sorting.<br>
Talking with Val, this is a long standing issue.<br>
I'm still thinking through the issue, but I think this is a good fix.<br>
You can read more about it here:<br>
<a href="https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-09.html#name-proposed-null-symbol" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-09.html#name-proposed-null-symbol</a><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Steve<br>
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