<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Here’s a simple explanation of what I am talking about:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="397015EC-1432-4087-9A05-23C13D5814E6" width="33" height="26" src="cid:B9C1559E-A4C5-4798-9B14-CFEB527C71F3" class=""> + <img apple-inline="yes" id="81C7F6A2-4461-4607-8E19-EE8D9E675C37" width="37" height="22" src="cid:F900B5CF-9442-42E3-AD13-53F04F15356D" class=""> = <img apple-inline="yes" id="B242F68F-CF4A-4F5E-B548-F7C5395FCED6" width="41" height="35" src="cid:6AC5A3B1-267C-4E37-A2B1-DAFF3EC21B8A" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope that helps.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Uta Meißner <<a href="mailto:uta.hielscher@GMAIL.COM" class="">uta.hielscher@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Hi all,<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I have a great interest in the sign search and its sorting of the found results</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">But damn, I'm unfortunately bad in English and texts about sign language is even harder. </div><div dir="auto" class="">And translation tool is not so good on this topic. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I don't understand, what is the problem? </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Adam, you wrote of wrist. But I haven't seen wrist symbols on images. That confused me. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Here I was quite welcome, if you can sign here. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Greetings Uta</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> schrieb am Mi., 9. Feb. 2022, 19:24:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Wonderful Adam!<br class="">
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> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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> I am leaning towards the same line of thinking as well. I’m glad I caught this before I started mass-adding signs to my dictionary work. That way I only have to change a couple of signs right now. :-)<br class="">
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>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:01 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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>> Hi Adam,<br class="">
>> I am glad that you're starting a new thread for Traveling Wrist Flex Movements.<br class="">
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>> These are constructed symbols. The ISWA 2010 has all of the pieces to put them together but they are constructed so it does make searching difficult.<br class="">
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>> Someday we will find a way to make certain constructed symbols a part of an addendum to the ISWA 2010 so they become units that can be searched for. All of our wonderful software developers are overwhelmed with jobs so I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon so we need to make due right now. <br class="">
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>> I think you are correct that when we are establishing the SignSpelling Sequence for a sign that has Traveling Flex Symbols, we probably should be sorting by wrist flexing and I think the wrist flexing comes first and the traveling arrows second. What do you think? Anything that would help searching. Because I just tried to search for them and had trouble so we do need to clean this up.<br class="">
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>> Val ;-)<br class="">
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>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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>>> I am going to start a new thread, but this now has me thinking about the SignSpelling and sorting with traveling wrist flex movements. :-)<br class="">
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>>> First question that comes to mind is should we be using with the wrist flex arrows instead for the SignSpelling? I understand that using it in the actual writing might mess things up in the actual spelling, such as when converted to SVG font, because of the overlapping of the wrist line and the traveling arrow stem. The reason I ask is because it is technically more accurate and might be more helpful for searching.<br class="">
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>>> The other question is more of a “chicken or egg” question. Ha! Should the wrist flex arrows come first in the SignSpelling Sequence for these traveling wrist flex movements, or should the traveling arrow come before the wrist flex? I have actually seen it both ways in our sorting. I am not sure if there is a specific reason for that.<br class="">
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>>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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>>>> Yes! That is correct. Glad you mentioned this, Adam. Those are Traveling Wrist Flexes.<br class="">
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>>>> Here are some examples of Traveling Wrist Flexes:<br class="">
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