<div dir="ltr">Hello Adam, AnnaGrace, Valerie, and everyone!, <div><br></div><div>Thank you all for your interest in my SW video. I hope it will be applied for educational purposes and will spark people's interest in native fingerspelling's various handshapes. To AnnaGrace, I'm also happy to know that you'll use it to show your students. To Adam, thanks for your informative linguistic explanation! I'm also an enthusiastic amateur linguist, so this info can interest me so much. Could you give me more native handshape allophones in SW? To Valerie, you're welcome! It's a lot of fun to come up with creative and interesting contents for SW.</div><div><br></div><div>Sutthikhun</div><div><img src="cid:ii_kzq8wihr1" alt="sign (14).png" width="45" height="40"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 09:49, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">SignWriting List<div>February 14, 2022</div><div><br></div><div>Wow Adam! I had no idea. I look forward to really studying this tomorrow. thank you for this message</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>--------<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 14, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br><br>Yes, there are a lot of allophones in fingerspelling. Allophones are any phonemes or smallest meaningless units of language that are perceived to mean the same thing but follow a specific rule to when they are used. In this case, there are several handshapes that mean the same letter in fingerspelling. <br><br>One of my old linguist professors explained it as Superman always appears when there is trouble, while Clark Kent appears when there is news. They never appear in the other’s situation because they are actually the same person.<br><br>Most languages can find the use of allophones, but language learners are usually only taught the “correct” form even if it should actually be an allophone that is used.<br><br>I once taught a fingerspelling course and showed students how there are about 150 different handshapes for the 26 letters of the English alphabet! Some letters had as many as 10 different allophones!<br><br>Byron Bridges made a good example of this with the fingerspelling of South Dakota in the video you shared.<br><br>I think this issue of allophones is one of the reasons why it can be difficult to decide how to write something in a specific language (in ASL for example) because native users don’t see allophones as being different while language learners don’t realize the different phonemes are considered allophones and therefore the same thing.<br><br>And to make it even more complex, there are times when the same phoneme is considered to be associated with a different allophone in different cases. That would be similar to how Bruce Wayne is Batman and Dick Grayson is Robin, who is also Batman when Bruce Wayne isn’t around. (No wonder why identity crisis is a thing!)<br><br>(This was intended to be a short email, but it has started run away with me. I guess you can’t tell I enjoy linguistics. Ha!)<br><br><img id="gmail-m_8566321267578812071D1D514A6-7398-4125-9D6D-F2CDB95BC8C2" src="cid:17f04fd98c94dbf12031"><br>Adam<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div>————<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 14, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <<a href="mailto:suttikunep@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">suttikunep@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br><br>Hi all! I just released a new video about native ASL fingerspelling in SW.<br><br>As a non-native signer, I'm surprised as to how all native signers are able to fingerspell so fast! I think the explanation in the original video gave me the answer. That's interesting to me! 🏃👋<br><br>Youtube: <a href="https://youtu.be/yiFwdvWHFhk" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/yiFwdvWHFhk</a><br>Original video: <a href="https://youtu.be/WrerwSBXKCA" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/WrerwSBXKCA</a><br><br>Sutthikhun<br><sign (14).png><br></blockquote></blockquote><br></div></div></div>________________________________________________
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