<div dir="ltr">Hi Cherie,<div><br></div><div>Is your computer a Mac or PC?</div><div><br></div><div>Smile,</div><div>AnnaGrace</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 8:23 PM Cherie Wren <<a href="mailto:000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">my computer can't open it... and my phone is android</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">cherie</div><div><br></div>
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-8788540731032172512ydp443d179ayiv5462498639"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi All,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Cherie, you made a good point.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Now, I am finally releasing the English word that I was aiming for in signwriting #4 that I shared several times in this thread. </div><div>Thank you for all your help and patience in working with me on this!!!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The release is presented in two slides on the attached Keynote slides which work on Apple products. If you are unable to open it, please let me know. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Please feel free to give feedback and comments on the slides.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>AnnaGrace</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div id="gmail-m_-8788540731032172512ydp443d179ayiv5462498639yqt20007"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 4:49 PM Adam Frost <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>That is exactly what I was thinking when I did the video, Cherie. ;-)<div><br clear="none"><div>
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<div dir="ltr">It looks very similar to the sign #DO-DO also known as WHAT-DO, although I usually do it two handed not one handed, and with a modified (allophone?) D hand with pinkie and ring finger tucked down, first 3 fingers making the 'D'</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">cherie</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-8788540731032172512ydp443d179ayiv5462498639gmail-m_6274164924803982258ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div>If I were to write what I did in the video, I would write it like this:<div><span id="gmail-m_-8788540731032172512ydp443d179ayiv5462498639gmail-m_6274164924803982258cid:fjuHqjkqRCxRFvlLnusD"><Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 10.43.53 AM.png></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>To be honest, I don’t see how to correctly use the scissoring movement with that handshape because the fingers aren’t spread apart – one is hinged forward. So to bring them together would require a hinge movement rather than just closing a spread apart finger.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Maybe you can send us a video of what you are indenting to write and we can help you write it. :-)</div><div><br clear="none"><div>
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<div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 18, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Adam,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>You and Hector are neck-to-neck close to the finish line!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Here are two hints for you, Adam:</div><div>1) You did say the right word earlier, but it was more of a "guess." </div><div> So, I revised and improved my spelling until any reader can sign it without second-guessing and with a high degree of certainty. </div><div>2) What you signed in your most recent video is represented by this spelling, I think:</div><div> <span id="gmail-m_-8788540731032172512ydp443d179ayiv5462498639gmail-m_6274164924803982258ydp181308e6yiv3319807843cid:ii_kzsy3w700"><Screen Shot 2022-02-18 at 4.49.56 PM.png></span></div><div>Now, retry this <font size="4">🙏---</font></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><span id="gmail-m_-8788540731032172512ydp443d179ayiv5462498639gmail-m_6274164924803982258ydp181308e6yiv3319807843cid:ii_kzsy6dky1"><SW dog 4.png></span><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks SO much,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>AnnaGrace</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:37 PM Adam Frost <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I decided to redo my attempt with the discussion from Carlos and Hector. Maybe this is actually what you were writing :-)<div><br clear="none"></div><div></div></div>
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<div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 18, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Adam,<div>Thank you for the quick response. Carlos is so, so close. </div><div>I gave him hints. I look forward to his response! Ha.</div><div>Cheers,</div><div>AnnaGrace</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:21 PM Adam Frost <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Yes, that would actually be more accurate of what I did. I think Carlos’ video is closer to what you had originally written, but he did that video after I had made mine. ;-)<div><br clear="none"><div>
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<div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 18, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Adam,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>You got me thinking...and thinking real hard. Which is a good thing! </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I came up with another spelling. </div><div>Would this spelling be more representative </div><div>of the recent video you made in this email thread?</div><div><span id="gmail-m_-8788540731032172512ydp443d179ayiv5462498639gmail-m_6274164924803982258ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail-m_9040282460187263835gmail-m_2226039493393701523cid:ii_kzswu1ob2"><image.png></span><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>AnnaGrace</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 4:40 PM Adam Frost <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I would see this as the hand touching the chest, although I don’t know if I would physically be able to do it with that palm facing and handshape.<div><br clear="none"><div>
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