<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">That is exactly what I was thinking when I did the video, Cherie. ;-)<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 20, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Cherie Wren <<a href="mailto:000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class="ydpe4530b24yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=""></div>
        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">It looks very similar to the sign #DO-DO also known as WHAT-DO, although I usually do it two handed not one handed, and with a modified (allophone?) D hand with pinkie and ring finger tucked down, first 3 fingers making the 'D'</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">cherie</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
        
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                    On Sunday, February 20, 2022, 01:50:53 PM EST, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" class="">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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                <div class=""><div id="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843" class=""><div class="">If I were to write what I did in the video, I would write it like this:<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><span id="cid:fjuHqjkqRCxRFvlLnusD"><Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 10.43.53 AM.png></span></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">To be honest, I don’t see how to correctly use the scissoring movement with that handshape because the fingers aren’t spread apart – one is hinged forward. So to bring them together would require a hinge movement rather than just closing a spread apart finger.</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Maybe you can send us a video of what you are indenting to write and we can help you write it. :-)</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">
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<div class=""><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><blockquote type="cite" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">On Feb 18, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Hi Adam,<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">You and Hector are neck-to-neck close to the finish line!</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Here are two hints for you, Adam:</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">1) You did say the right word earlier, but it was more of a "guess." </div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">    So, I revised and improved my spelling until any reader can sign it without second-guessing and with a high degree of certainty. </div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">2) What you signed in your most recent video is represented by this spelling, I think:</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">                         <span id="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843cid:ii_kzsy3w700" class=""><Screen Shot 2022-02-18 at 4.49.56 PM.png></span></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Now, retry this <font size="4" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">🙏---</font></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><span id="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843cid:ii_kzsy6dky1" class=""><SW dog 4.png></span><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Thanks SO much,</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">AnnaGrace</div></div><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:37 PM Adam Frost <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_quote"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">I decided to redo my attempt with the discussion from Carlos and Hector. Maybe this is actually what you were writing :-)<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div></div>
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<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><blockquote type="cite" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">On Feb 18, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Hi Adam,<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Thank you for the quick response. Carlos is so, so close. </div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">I gave him hints. I look forward to his response! Ha.</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Cheers,</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">AnnaGrace</div></div><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:21 PM Adam Frost <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_quote"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Yes, that would actually be more accurate of what I did. I think Carlos’ video is closer to what you had originally written, but he did that video after I had made mine. ;-)<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">
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<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><blockquote type="cite" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">On Feb 18, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Hi Adam,<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">You got me thinking...and thinking real hard. Which is a good thing! </div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">I came up with another spelling. </div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Would this spelling be more representative </div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">of the recent video you made in this email thread?</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><span id="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail-m_9040282460187263835gmail-m_2226039493393701523cid:ii_kzswu1ob2" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><image.png></span><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Thanks,</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">AnnaGrace</div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div></div><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 4:40 PM Adam Frost <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail_quote"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">I would see this as the hand touching the chest, although I don’t know if I would physically be able to do it with that palm facing and handshape.<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">
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<div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><blockquote type="cite" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">On Feb 17, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><span id="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843gmail-m_9040282460187263835gmail-m_2226039493393701523cid:17f0eae3cf11aa7df672" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><Screen Shot 2022-02-17 at 3.32.53 PM.png></span> <br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843">Would this spelling be a more accurate representation of the sign in this particular video?</div></div></blockquote></div><div id="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843yqtfd86699" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843yqt7744973776"><br clear="none" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843"></div></div></div><div id="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843yqtfd91640" class="ydp181308e6yiv3319807843yqt7744973776">________________________________________________
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