<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">SignWriting List<div class="">February 25, 2022</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hi Andre, and everyone,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are two textbooks that I have written that you can download from the web:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Lessons in SignWriting Textbook (1990-2014)</div><div class="">(see page 117 for General Movement Arrowhead)</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf" class="">https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SignWriting Basics Instruction Manual (First Edition was 2009)</div><div class="">(see page 34 for General Movement Arrowhead)</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs9/sw0821_SignWriting_Basics_Instruction_Manual_Sutton.pdf" class="">https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs9/sw0821_SignWriting_Basics_Instruction_Manual_Sutton.pdf</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">These books were updated from time to time, so it is possible that you have an older version of them, or it is possible that you are referring to other SignWriting books written by others? I am not sure how the books by Steve and Dianne Parkhurst define the General Arrowhead - I will take a look...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But I remember using the General Arrowhead meaning Overlapping Paths, based on research back in the 1970s and 1980s by linguists relating to “movement paths”, when I was using our Movement Symbols for the NTID Technical Signs Manuals in 1979… so this is an old definition.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So what is the name of your textbook, and can you show me a screen capture of the wording in the book? What year was it published?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is very interesting - we used to have a book called SignWriting For Everyday Use - I will have to look in that one! This is an important discussion...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have included a screen capture from the two books I mention above ….</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And by the way, it is ok to say that two hands contacting might use the General Arrowhead, but not all writers use it that way, including me, because not all contacting hands are blending black with white to make grey. Some contacting hands do blend the two colors, with overlapping paths, and some contacting hands are far apart and do not blend, even though they contact.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But no worries - clearly we need to add definitions that are being used today...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But right now, let’s find out the textbook you are referring to…it probably is before 2009? I am very curious!!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="15AF4CB0-8DDA-4E5C-A729-310EE74D16CB" width="480" height="493" src="cid:92AF53E4-36E7-4726-95A5-EA312191CFB4" class=""></div><div class="">______________</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Feb 25, 2022, at 8:51 AM, André Thibeault <<a href="mailto:atg@VIDEOTRON.CA" class="">atg@VIDEOTRON.CA</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Val and everyone,<br class=""><br class="">It seems to me that my textbook is different from your textbook.<br class=""><br class="">Two hands move as one unit.<br class=""><br class="">When both hands contact, and move toghter in the same direction, they move as one unit. The movement is both right and left. This is written with a neutral arrowhead, which is neither dark nor light. (first definition only). That is all.<br class=""><br class="">My textbook does not include overlapping paths (first (with contact) and second (without contact) definition). <br class=""><br class="">Best regards,<br class=""><br class="">André<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">De : Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>><br class="">Répondre à : "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU><br class="">Date : Fri, 25 Feb 2022 07:49:03 -0800<br class="">À : <SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU><br class="">Objet : Re: General movement arrowhead<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List<br class="">February 25, 2022<br class=""><br class="">Hello everyone, and Andre,<br class=""><br class="">I found the message I was looking for. See below. It was under another subject title related to captions so that is why I couldn't find it before…<br class=""><br class="">I appreciate this message Andre. Thank you. I remembered you had said that you wanted to argue for new definitions. I appreciate your input.<br class=""><br class="">The first definition, and the only one in textbooks at the moment, is Overlapping Paths (see attached).<br class=""><br class="">What are the second and third definitions that you propose?<br class=""><br class="">Many thanks 😊<br class=""><br class="">Val 😊<br class=""><br class="">________<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Feb 23, 2022, at 1:00 PM, André Thibeault <atg@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Val and everyone,<br class=""><br class="">Val: I cannot read English captions. Don't worry about it. I am sure that I understand the general movement arrowhead. However, I would like to argue a new third definition of <span id="cid:C0D57E8A-CFED-454B-A76D-B6DA340F4581"><C0D57E8A-CFED-454B-A76D-B6DA340F4581.png></span>.<br class=""><br class="">Best regards,<br class=""><br class="">André<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></div></body></html>________________________________________________
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