<div dir="ltr">Cherie,<br><div><br></div><div>Excellent analysis. Thank you!</div><div><br></div><div>~ AnnaGrace</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 9:34 AM Cherie Wren <<a href="mailto:000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">One thing that might be helpful is to figure out what part is the sign itself, and what part is transition TO the sign. So for KISSFIST the movement to the chin is part of the transition, and the kiss-and-move-forward is the sign itself. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">cherie</div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, March 11, 2022, 08:37:00 PM EST, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" target="_blank">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_686810967606949612ydpc7e32d5byiv1311446506"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Val,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thank you for your reply! Your feedback and the screen capture from SignPuddle are very helpful. Yes, I was aiming for "kissfist." </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I am still learning about the "grammar" of SignWriting. I now can see that the "up arrow" isn't necessary because it is implied. I am still studying the SignSpelling Guidelines and Writing Process on pages 193 to 203.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I will change the spelling--I will remove the touch contact from under the chin. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>On page 164 in the textbook, in the first column, on rows 5 and 6 -- could you tell me the difference between these two "kisses"? I tried to look up SignWords that use these symbols in SignPuddle (Search by Symbols) but none came up.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>On another note, there are two signs that I can think of right now that touch under the chin. I am working on signwriting them, and I will show them to you in my next email. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks again,</div><div>AnnaGrace</div></div><br clear="none"><div id="gmail-m_686810967606949612ydpc7e32d5byiv1311446506yqt69129"><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 6:51 PM Valerie Sutton <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>SignWriting List<div>March 11, 2022</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Hello SignWriting List, and AnnaGrace -</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thank you for the question and the writing ;-)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I hope others will answer, better than I can do… It is very nice that you ask questions like this…it gets us thinking ;-)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>At first I thought your right fist was moving up and touching under your chin, but then I guessed you were writing KISS FIST, because I saw the kiss mouth position.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I just looked up KISS FIST in the ASL SignPuddle and found these signs, written by three different writers… thank you everyone. Please see attached screen capture.</div><div><img id="gmail-m_686810967606949612ydpc7e32d5byiv1311446506gmail-m_-489510840900322310869803C23-0F94-42E6-957E-58F67E39E25F" src="cid:17f7fb3e7d343093ef61" style="width: 728px; max-width: 800px;"></div><div>So ...</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>If you meant to write KISS-FIST, then the up-arrow is accurate but it is not necessary to write it. The reader will read the “Position of Contact” (the kiss) and then follow the movement forward.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>In this case, I was using knowledge of the sign to guide my reading. But if you meant “contacting under the chin” then I guessed wrong. Are there signs in ASL where the fist touches under the chin?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>-----------</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Hi All,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Check my spelling -- what does this look like in sign? It's quite an exercise on the use of arrows, huh?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><img id="gmail-m_686810967606949612ydpc7e32d5byiv1311446506gmail-m_-4895108409003223108F129A5EC-6E86-4FE2-9571-69FFC16A32D3" src="cid:17f7fb3e7d3be5d56802"><br clear="none">I look forward to your comments!<br clear="none">Thanks,<br clear="none">AnnaGrace<br clear="none"></blockquote><br clear="none"></div></div>________________________________________________
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