<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="">SignWriting List</div><div class="">March 14, 2022</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, I guess the English word “pucker” is a good word, although no words are as good as doing the position of the mouth. So when Searching by Symbol in SignPuddle 2, there are no words from any spoken language available, only the symbol itself.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In the ISWA Reference Manual:</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.signbank.org/iswa/33b_sg.html" class="">https://www.signbank.org/iswa/33b_sg.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">there are three symbols listed with the word description of “kiss”:</div><div class="">see attached...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><img apple-inline="yes" id="00E94250-C343-48C3-B90E-7AB04B608B0A" width="543" height="258" src="cid:E39C8816-92EF-4F76-86A4-1F94E5E7E6DD" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mar 14, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM" class="">msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Val and All,<br class=""><br class="">Aha! I have learned from you that by removing the location criteria in SignPuddle 2.0 <br class="">that several signwritings with the "kiss" face do show up. Thank you for the detailed <br class="">description on how to search in SignPuddle.<br class=""><br class="">So, would another word to describe this symbol (in the signwriting for HOW) be "pucker"? <br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">AnnaGrace<br class=""><br class="">__________<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 3:02 PM Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">SignWriting List<br class="">March 14, 2022<br class=""><br class="">OK. So to find signs that use one symbol in SignPuddle 2, I go to the dictionary file and I click on “Search by Symbols” button on the left. Then I find the symbol I want to search for…drag it to the SignBox, and then click on Any Match. Then I get rid of any location criteria. and then usually a list of signs appears that use that symbol.<br class=""><br class="">I am preparing the list now…<br class=""><br class="">But here is one I found for the simple position of a kiss-like mouth. Some of these signs do not mean “kiss” at all - they are using that mouth position for other grammar reasons…for example…here is one written by Vanessa - thank you Vanessa!<br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:17f8a06eccb43093ef61"><Image.png></span><br class="">_____<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mar 14, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Val and all,<br class=""><br class="">Thank you, Val, for explaining the difference between the two facial expressions (one is a position and one is a movement).<br class="">I have therefore adjusted my signwriting for kissfist (see it below). <br class=""><br class="">I've tried to find examples of these two facial expressions in the United States' SignPuddle search, but could not come up with any. <br class=""><br class="">Could any of you on this SignWriting List thread share examples of signwriting spelling using these two facial expressions?<br class=""><br class="">Stay safe --<br class="">AnnaGrace<br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:17f8a06eccbcf31ef1a2"><Screen Shot 2022-03-14 at 12.11.44 PM.png></span><br class=""><br class="">On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:32 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org> wrote:<br class="">SignWriting List<br class="">March 14, 2022<br class=""><br class="">Hello SignWriting List, and AnnaGrace -<br class=""><br class="">We had a mini-reunion of the Deaf Action Committee for SignWriting (the DAC) yesterday…. it was really a brunch and a lot of fun! Some of us had not seen each other for years and it was great to see each other again… and for me the reunion is still ongoing with friends here, and very nice to remember our past and look to the future…<br class=""><br class="">Thank you for your questions, AnnaGrace -<br class=""><br class="">I hope everyone will answer - not just me or Adam … I love the SignWriting List and hope we can have a lively list that really provides information for everyone with many teachers.<br class=""><br class="">The symbols you mention in your question below, on page 164 in the textbook, are the “kissing” symbols...<br class=""><br class="">They can be found in the ISWA 2010 Symbol Palette under Mouths… see attached screen capture… in SignMaker and SignPuddle…<br class=""><br class="">What are the differences between the two smbols?<br class=""><br class="">The first is the “position" of the lips in a kiss position.<br class=""><br class="">The second, with the little arrows showing the movment of protruding forward, is the “movement” of protruding the lips forward.<br class=""><br class="">So one is a position, and the other is a movement.<br class=""><br class="">One is static, and the other is taking action.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:17f8a06eccb81ee12c73"><Kisses.png></span><br class=""><br class="">---------<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20@GMAIL.COM> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">On page 164 in the textbook, in the first column, on rows 5 and 6 -- could you tell me the difference between these two "kisses"? I tried to look up SignWords that use these symbols in SignPuddle (Search by Symbols) but none came up.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">________________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<br class=""><br class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton@signwriting.org<br class=""><br class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist<br class=""><br class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1<br class=""><br class="">________________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<br class=""><br class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton@signwriting.org<br class=""><br class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist<br class=""><br class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></div></body></html>________________________________________________
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