<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This has always been an interesting discussion for me. :-)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I never really learned SignWriting shorthand as it was designed and used originally. I did talk about it with Valerie quite extensively, though. She had told me that the handbook you are referring to needed to be updated if it were to be used because the system has gone through a lot of changes since it has been in use. That is probably why it isn’t available for download.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Carlos sent you a link to a presentation that I did on this topic. It is a good place to start, but even my handwriting has changed since then since it is coming up on 10 years since. Wow! I guess I should look at how I handwrite now and document it somehow. I know that there are a lot of symbol changes for faster writing, for one.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have also been doing a lot of dictionary sorting lately so I have been writing by SignSpellingSequence. I have often wondered if it were to become established and commonly used if inputing solely by SignSpellingSequence would be a fast way to write as well. It makes it easy for writing, but makes reading very difficult as it loses all visual aspect of SignWriting, so I am not so sure if it is a good thing to consider. Ha!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have also been testing out various approaches to make it so I can write fewer symbols, including the use of timing symbols in a new way, but I haven’t really gotten to a place where I am satisfied that it works well. I know that I mentioned it in the presentation I gave in 2014 and it has been picked up by others around the world, but I haven’t really used it much myself.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">

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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:36 AM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <<a href="mailto:suttikunep@GMAIL.COM" class="">suttikunep@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thank you for your answer and the link you provided, Carlos!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sutthikhun</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 at 23:56, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" class="">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi All,<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I was thinking about shorthand too! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you, Carlos, for the link. :-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">AnnaGrace</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 12:19 PM Carlos Cristian Libras <<a href="mailto:carloscristianlibras@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">carloscristianlibras@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">I make daily use of SW in shorthand.<br class="">I took a part of Adam presentation from the link -<br class=""><a href="https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0003.html#abstract" target="_blank" class="">https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0003.html#abstract</a><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Another friend from Ethiopia also made some cursive hand shapes, which I copied. Some forms I invented myself to facilitate my registration.<br class="">Last month I did a translation that I will record a video in ASL and before recording I wrote everything with SW shorthand, and then I recorded it. So I use it daily, and I know many others around the world use it too.<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 10:30 AM Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <<a href="mailto:suttikunep@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">suttikunep@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="margin-bottom:8px;font-family:"Segoe UI Historic","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-size:15px" class=""><span style="line-height:1.3333;max-width:100%;min-width:0px;font-size:0.9375rem;font-family:inherit;word-break:break-word" class="">Hi everyone in SW List! Let me ask you something <span style="font-family:inherit" class=""><span style="font-weight:600" class="">—</span></span></span></div><ul style="margin:8px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 32px;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-family:"Segoe UI Historic","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px" class=""><li class=""><div style="margin-bottom:8px;font-family:inherit" class=""><span style="line-height:1.3333;max-width:100%;min-width:0px;font-size:0.9375rem;font-family:inherit;word-break:break-word" class="">Is SW shorthand still in use nowadays? I remember SW used to have a handbook for writing shorthand as well, unfortunately I can't find a link to download it.</span></div></li><li class=""><div style="margin-bottom:8px;font-family:inherit" class=""><span style="line-height:1.3333;max-width:100%;min-width:0px;font-size:0.9375rem;font-family:inherit;word-break:break-word" class="">Do you usually apply SW shorthand in your writing? If not, how do you write as fast as script writing for spoken languages? Writing with SW, in my opinion, is a hybrid between sketching and writing, which makes it too slow to write if you want to take quick notes.</span></div></li></ul><div class=""><font color="#050505" face="Segoe UI Historic, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:15px" class="">Thank you ;)</span></font></div><div class=""><font color="#050505" face="Segoe UI Historic, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:15px" class="">Sutthikhun</span></font></div></div>

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