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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">When I sign COFFEE, I too, circle counter clockwise, but I can read the writing because I know the sign. For the original poster, who mentioned that some signs changing the direction of the rub changes the meaning, could you use movement arrows to specify? </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, April 8, 2022, 07:02:24 AM EDT, Wallyson Ruan <wallysonruan@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685"><div><div><div>'Morning!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>As a LIBRAS signer, I tend to do the rubbing in a counter-clockwise direction.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>As Ms. Anna Grace, I never thought much of the symbols direction, but, after reading Mr. Honza's e-mail I'm quite curious about this "component".</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Mr. Honza, wouldn't the arrows solve the problem?</div><br clear="none"><div id="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685yqt17169" class="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685yqt4697920378"><div class="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685gmail_attr">Em qui, 7 de abr de 2022 13:35, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Hi All,<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Now that I think about the rubbing component, as a right-hander in American Sign Language (ASL), </div><div>I find myself rubbing a <b>counter-clockwise</b> direction in the signs for COFFEE, WASHING-A-DISH, SORRY, PLEASE, NAUSEA. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I was never conscious of the direction in rubbing until now. I would be interested in finding out which direction others are doing in ASL.<br clear="none">As a teacher of ASL, I think the direction of rubbing is important. (eg, how does signing PLEASE in the other direction strike you?)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>~ AnnaGrace</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:22 AM Valerie Sutton <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685gmail_quote"><div>SignWriting List<div>April 7, 2022</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Hello SignWriting List, and Honza from the Czech Republic,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Are you getting messages from the SignWriting List now, Honza, using your new Gmail account?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I hope you get this email. I want to be sure that you get it, so please tell us if you did.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regarding the Rub Symbol…Direction of rubbing was never written with the symbol. The symbol always goes one direction and represents rubbing in general without stating the direction of rubbing.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>But it's a very interesting idea, but never a part of the International SignWriting Alphabet 2010 (ISWA).</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><img id="ydp145d737dyiv6357598685m_6467727551697846215m_-5796309844768246444gmail-m_48714543898313574072FABF668-8097-4A39-B9B4-96FCF69FF29A" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=ebb99829ca&attid=0.1&th=18008cae0fb5096a&view=fimg&fur=ip&rm=18008cae0fb5096a&sz=w1600-h1000&attbid=ANGjdJ-AIuJ9fq1j685uYnwJQpxyajikkC75nvMLkifiVTymp_z8Ts8GuuIPnJQ4FB-vprY_X-XBpKHqJXhvEU5m-X-8vaHEW66jNCzLljZHBB9caw5IOgudZBoDVqQ&disp=emb&realattid=18004d8482843093ef61&zw" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true" class="" style="width: 112px; max-width: 0px;"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>------------</div><div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 7, 2022, at 1:03 AM, Honza Fikejs <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:honza.fikejs@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">honza.fikejs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Hi Valerie,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">since I haven't received any emails from the list for last two years, I am trying now to find out my questions I have posted and haven`t got any response.<br clear="none">First of all I am wondering about rub symbol. I thought there used to be two two rub symbols in the SignPuddle (clockwise and anticlockwise rolled), but now I see only one there. .<br clear="none">In czech sign language the rub direction matters, so I teach my students to be careful about way of rolling.<br clear="none">Is there a way how to write down direction of rubbing?<br clear="none">Now I am not sure, since there is only one rub symbol (maybe I only imagined there was two)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thank you<br clear="none">Honza<br clear="none">________________________________________________</blockquote></div></div>________________________________________________
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