<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello Rubens,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A very good question. I don’t think there is any “standard” guideline about how to write these cases. It is really what is the most readable to those who use the language.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Since I am not native to Libras, I can’t give you a definite answer for both spelling. However, I can give you some help regardless as a native signer. :-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I personally face these sort of issues, I ask myself if the sign is a compound, which means there are two separate parts to the sign as if they had their own separate meaning. The English words for audiovisual and SIgnWriting are compounds (audio + visual and Sign + Writing). So with that in mind, when I look at the sign for “audiovisual” in your video, I get the feeling there are two parts. Because of that, I would pick the first example because it is written to show the separation. (Although I would reduce the gap between so they aren’t read as separate words.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="37AB72CC-2EEC-4B44-AB65-FB04203E9ED8" width="648" height="222" src="cid:3C816791-ADF8-4148-ACD7-E00F2B17CA5C" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Of course, since I am not a native Libras signer – my Libras is minimum at most – my interpretation could be wrong and there isn’t a compound in two signs here. If that were the case, the second spelling might be better. However, I would suggest a minor change in spelling since I didn’t see an inward traveling movement between the first and second handshape like there was to the last handshape. (I placed the handshape above, but it could also be placed next to as well.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="EAC11D36-03DA-4DDE-8061-6828D05A5903" width="367" height="256" src="cid:DA48AE7C-C471-4FE8-B615-C366C1AA4C87" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The same could be said for the Libras sign for SignWriting. The first example is written as if it is a compound, while the second spelling is written as if it were one sign. To me as a non-native Libras signer, I don’t see that sign as a compound and would probably use the second spelling. But maybe it is a compound and should be written as in the first spelling.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="A86A6928-F7EB-44A0-A2B3-917D375EEC4E" width="648" height="220" src="cid:B19FA7DB-C025-4DC2-9DBD-3AF60C6F07B4" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 3, 2022, at 4:23 PM, Profo Rubens Almeida <<a href="mailto:rubens.escritadesinais@GMAIL.COM" class="">rubens.escritadesinais@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Hello everyone on the
SignWriting List,<span class=""></span></span></p><div style="text-align: justify; margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; line-height: 107%; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class=""><span class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Recently there was a
question that we talked about in the SignWriting Brasil WhatsApp group
regarding how to write a sign that uses more movements and more than one
handshape. The example was the audiovisual spelling in Libras. There was a
member of the group that did the direct writing (term I use for writing that is
not done and 2 steps), however, I found the writing to be confusing, difficult
to read, so I suggested writing in 2 steps (according to example (1) of the
attached video) in order to facilitate reading.<span class=""></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">I learned from Adam
that this is the best option in these cases, when some time ago I introduced
him to the SignWriting script used in Libras with two writing possibilities.
Adam explained that the writing (from example 3 in the attached video) was more
readable.<span class=""></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">My question is how can
I understand when I can use direct writing in order to save graphemes and
spaces when writing signs with more movements and more than one handshape, and
also where can I find more guidelines, references to publications that clarify
this question .<span class=""></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Thank you in advance
for everyone's attention and support!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Here's a link to the video on YouTube:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class=""><a href="https://youtu.be/IxD7Kfc2uow" class="">https://youtu.be/IxD7Kfc2uow</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class=""><br class=""></span></p><div style="text-align: justify; margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; line-height: 107%; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">
</span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Hugs!<span class=""></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Rubens Almeida</span></p><div style="text-align: justify; margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; line-height: 107%; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class=""><span class=""></span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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