<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">October 12, 2022</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SW Vocabulary Lists: Signs for MOTORCYCLE</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you everyone, for your signs for MOTORCYCLE.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It looks like the sign is similar in 3 sign languages. But other signs, like TEACHER and others, were very different.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will work on creating a chart today on the web, where we can compare the vocabulary.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I truly appreciate all your suggestions and contributions - please suggest other signs - every sign is valuable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">PS. Want to know why I asked for the sign for MOTORCYCLE? I am trying to write this sentence:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">“My neighbors have 4 children, 6 bicycles, 7 motorcycles and 5 cars.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And this is based on a true story. Our neighbors really do have many vehicles. It is a busy street ;-)</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">------------</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="">
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Messsages about the sign for MOTORCYCLE:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Profo Rubens Almeida <<a href="mailto:rubens.escritadesinais@GMAIL.COM" class="">rubens.escritadesinais@GMAIL.COM</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [SW-L] Signs for MOTORCYCLE</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">October 12, 2022 at 7:56:46 AM PDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Hello Valerie and all SignWriting List members,<span class=""></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">The spelling of the motorcycle sign in Libras is the
same as that presented by Adam, as shown in the image below.<span class=""></span></span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; line-height: 107%; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class=""><span class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><img alt="LISTAS DE VOCABULÁRIO - SIGNWRITING LIST (MOTOCICLETA).jpg" style="margin-right: 0px;" class="" apple-inline="yes" id="A1E93447-44A9-4E4D-9E03-949407375068" src="cid:ii_l95r8bnu2"><br class=""><br class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Thanks for the opportunity to join the vocabulary
list </span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif" class="">😊</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">🤟</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class=""><span class=""></span></span></p>
<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif" class="">Hugs!</span>
</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em ter., 11 de out. de 2022 às 15:44, Stefan Woehrmann <<a href="mailto:000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> escreveu:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi Adam and all, <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"I was just wondering if the movement was actually a wrist flex as you
had written it. I noticed that I don’t sign it that way, but that is
probably because I have a painful wrist. Ha!"</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, ...a wrist flex as I had written it. ;-))</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"<span class="">Is that the ending palm facing?" Yes</span></div><div class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span class="">"If so, wouldn’t the movement be forward rather than up?"</span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span class="">Ha, this is an interesting question. Probably you are right. ;-)) On the other hand ..mh ...performing the movement "feels to me" ;-)) as if the fists move in place rather upward. <br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span class="">Thanks for Your attention to my spelling!</span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span class="">Stefan<br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="">__________</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do
have a question about the handshape. Is that the ending palm facing? If
so, wouldn’t the movement be forward rather than up? Or was the
handshape supposed to be the beginning handshape? If that is the case,
wouldn’t the handshape go under the movement arrows?</div><div class=""><br class="">__________</div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Di., 11. Okt. 2022 um 20:08 Uhr schrieb Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>>:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">I was referring to Stefan’s writing. Here it is:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img id="m_3475271235853113019m_3716856012598274665<ii_l94hmaf91>" alt="grafik.png" style="opacity: 1;" class="" apple-inline="yes" src="cid:183c8554dbbf87d71a51"></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<span class=""><img id="m_3475271235853113019m_371685601259827466590E40057-AF73-498E-9D67-A8C8D723FF31" class="" apple-inline="yes" src="cid:183c8554dbc4dbf12032"></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline;" class="">Adam</span>
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<div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div>___________</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 11, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" target="_blank" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Thank you for your signs - Adam, what diagram are you referring to in your message below? Can you include the graphic - thanks so much for this great discussion...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 11, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">I was just wondering if the movement was actually a wrist flex as you had written it. I noticed that I don’t sign it that way, but that is probably because I have a painful wrist. Ha!<br class=""><br class="">I do have a question about the handshape. Is that the ending palm facing? If so, wouldn’t the movement be forward rather than up? Or was the handshape supposed to be the beginning handshape? If that is the case, wouldn’t the handshape go under the movement arrows?<br class=""><br class=""><span id="m_3475271235853113019m_3716856012598274665cid:BC7FF2BE-B327-4618-B076-E92B91C176BA@home" class=""><namesign.png></span><br class="">Adam<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 11, 2022, at 10:40 AM, Stefan Woehrmann <000000068eb2df61-dmarc-<a href="mailto:request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" class="">request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Val, <br class="">this is my suggestion for the DGS sign "Motorrad"<br class=""><br class=""><grafik.png><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Am Di., 11. Okt. 2022 um 17:45 Uhr schrieb Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>>:<br class="">I would vote for the second one. Of course, if there are other suggestions on how to write it, I am open to discussing it. :-)<br class=""><br class=""><namesign.png><br class="">Adam<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 11, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" target="_blank" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List<br class="">October 11, 2022<br class=""><br class="">Hello everyone!<br class=""><br class="">What are your signs for MOTORCYCLE?<br class=""><br class="">I found two in the ASL SignPuddle, but, what do you want to include in our Vocabulary List?<br class=""><br class=""><glyphogram.png><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><glyphogram.png><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I am so curious to see how other sign languages sign MOTORCYCLE!<br class=""><br class="">Val ;-)<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""></div><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>________________________________________________</blockquote></div></blockquote></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class=""></span><span class=""></span><img src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4yNp73q7AcP8Wqw8_S65uSHlbRaLcT6qly7vpH3qijZwx97hpn89Y-uasalpvWK2rfKBgPAW5s" width="420" height="252" class=""><br class=""></div></div>
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