<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hello Val and friends,<div><br></div><div>These are my motorcycle signs. </div><div style="text-align:center"><img src="cid:ii_l96cnu8q5" alt="Captura de pantalla 2022-10-12 195532.png" width="483" height="512"></div><div style="text-align:left">But I had a problem writing a mouth movement that could differentiate the CL for motorcycle and bicycle. ¿Could you help me to write it correctly? </div><div style="text-align:center"><a href="https://youtu.be/f0idbOp5RUU"><img src="cid:ii_l96d27fl6" alt="Captura de pantalla 2022-10-12 200634.png" width="512" height="286"></a><br></div><div style="text-align:center"><a href="https://youtu.be/f0idbOp5RUU">https://youtu.be/f0idbOp5RUU</a><br></div><div style="text-align:left"><br></div><div style="text-align:left"> </div><div> </div><br><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mié, 12 oct 2022 a la(s) 11:29, Valerie Sutton (<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>SignWriting List<div>October 12, 2022</div><div><br></div><div>SW Vocabulary Lists: Signs for MOTORCYCLE</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you everyone, for your signs for MOTORCYCLE.</div><div><br></div><div>It looks like the sign is similar in 3 sign languages. But other signs, like TEACHER and others, were very different.</div><div><br></div><div>I will work on creating a chart today on the web, where we can compare the vocabulary.</div><div><br></div><div>I truly appreciate all your suggestions and contributions - please suggest other signs - every sign is valuable.</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><div>PS. Want to know why I asked for the sign for MOTORCYCLE? I am trying to write this sentence:</div><div><br></div><div>“My neighbors have 4 children, 6 bicycles, 7 motorcycles and 5 cars.”</div><div><br></div><div>And this is based on a true story. Our neighbors really do have many vehicles. It is a busy street ;-)</div></div><div><br></div><div>------------</div><div><br></div><div><br>
<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Messsages about the sign for MOTORCYCLE:</div><br><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">Profo Rubens Almeida <<a href="mailto:rubens.escritadesinais@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">rubens.escritadesinais@GMAIL.COM</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Re: [SW-L] Signs for MOTORCYCLE</b><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">October 12, 2022 at 7:56:46 AM PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">"SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Hello Valerie and all SignWriting List members,<span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">The spelling of the motorcycle sign in Libras is the
same as that presented by Adam, as shown in the image below.<span></span></span></p><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif"><span> </span></span><br></div><img alt="LISTAS DE VOCABULÁRIO - SIGNWRITING LIST (MOTOCICLETA).jpg" style="margin-right: 0px;" id="m_8055175643751878311m_24819558917084169A1E93447-44A9-4E4D-9E03-949407375068" src="cid:183cecb5c9849ab86a61"><br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Thanks for the opportunity to join the vocabulary
list </span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif">😊</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">🤟</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif"><span></span></span></p>
<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Hugs!</span>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em ter., 11 de out. de 2022 às 15:44, Stefan Woehrmann <<a href="mailto:000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" target="_blank">000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Adam and all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>"I was just wondering if the movement was actually a wrist flex as you
had written it. I noticed that I don’t sign it that way, but that is
probably because I have a painful wrist. Ha!"</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, ...a wrist flex as I had written it. ;-))</div><div><br></div><div>"<span>Is that the ending palm facing?" Yes</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span><span>"If so, wouldn’t the movement be forward rather than up?"</span></span></div><div><span><span><br></span></span></div><div><span><span>Ha, this is an interesting question. Probably you are right. ;-)) On the other hand ..mh ...performing the movement "feels to me" ;-)) as if the fists move in place rather upward. <br></span></span></div><div><span><span><br></span></span></div><div><span><span>Thanks for Your attention to my spelling!</span></span></div><div><span><span><br></span></span></div><div><span><span>Stefan<br></span></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>__________</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div>I do
have a question about the handshape. Is that the ending palm facing? If
so, wouldn’t the movement be forward rather than up? Or was the
handshape supposed to be the beginning handshape? If that is the case,
wouldn’t the handshape go under the movement arrows?</div><div><br>__________</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Di., 11. Okt. 2022 um 20:08 Uhr schrieb Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I was referring to Stefan’s writing. Here it is:<div><br></div><div><img id="m_8055175643751878311m_24819558917084169m_3475271235853113019m_3716856012598274665<ii_l94hmaf91>" alt="grafik.png" style="opacity: 1;" src="cid:183cecb5c99f87d71a52"></div><div><br><div>
<span><img id="m_8055175643751878311m_24819558917084169m_3475271235853113019m_371685601259827466590E40057-AF73-498E-9D67-A8C8D723FF31" src="cid:183cecb5c9b4dbf12033"></span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Adam</span>
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<div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div>___________</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 11, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" target="_blank">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div><div>Thank you for your signs - Adam, what diagram are you referring to in your message below? Can you include the graphic - thanks so much for this great discussion...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 11, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br><br>I was just wondering if the movement was actually a wrist flex as you had written it. I noticed that I don’t sign it that way, but that is probably because I have a painful wrist. Ha!<br><br>I do have a question about the handshape. Is that the ending palm facing? If so, wouldn’t the movement be forward rather than up? Or was the handshape supposed to be the beginning handshape? If that is the case, wouldn’t the handshape go under the movement arrows?<br><br><span id="m_8055175643751878311m_24819558917084169m_3475271235853113019m_3716856012598274665cid:BC7FF2BE-B327-4618-B076-E92B91C176BA@home"><namesign.png></span><br>Adam<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 11, 2022, at 10:40 AM, Stefan Woehrmann <000000068eb2df61-dmarc-<a href="mailto:request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:<br><br>Hi Val, <br>this is my suggestion for the DGS sign "Motorrad"<br><br><grafik.png><br><br><br>Am Di., 11. Okt. 2022 um 17:45 Uhr schrieb Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>>:<br>I would vote for the second one. Of course, if there are other suggestions on how to write it, I am open to discussing it. :-)<br><br><namesign.png><br>Adam<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 11, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" target="_blank">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:<br><br>SignWriting List<br>October 11, 2022<br><br>Hello everyone!<br><br>What are your signs for MOTORCYCLE?<br><br>I found two in the ASL SignPuddle, but, what do you want to include in our Vocabulary List?<br><br><glyphogram.png><br><br><br><glyphogram.png><br><br><br>I am so curious to see how other sign languages sign MOTORCYCLE!<br><br>Val ;-)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>________________________________________________</blockquote></div></blockquote></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span></span><span></span><img src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4yNp73q7AcP8Wqw8_S65uSHlbRaLcT6qly7vpH3qijZwx97hpn89Y-uasalpvWK2rfKBgPAW5s" width="420" height="252"><br></div></div>
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