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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 21, 2022, at 7:31 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">SignWriting List</div><div class="">October 21. 2022</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for your feedback, Adam -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So I think you are saying you normally do not write that much detail for simple vocabulary lists…is that right?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maybe the air is too much information and the simple trill is enough?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:DB85E4E0-40C9-475D-BD75-97B5ACEB1871"><Screen Shot 2022-10-21 at 7.23.29 PM.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 21, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hmm… I think it is a matter of what feels the closest to the writer. :-)<br class=""><br class="">I guess you could write with the air going out if the details are desired. However, I personally don’t think you could do with out the vibrating lips as was written here:<br class=""><span id="cid:E3F4DCE8-36C5-4C99-9999-669568177F44"><MOUTH_motorcycle_3.png></span><br class="">To me, this could be done by having the lips slightly closed, but still enough for air to pass without the lips vibrating.<br class=""><br class="">I personally would write without just because I don’t think that much information is necessary, but I haven’t really written this movement often enough to see what the average reader sees. Maybe it should be done with both so that it is easiest for the reader.<br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:BC7FF2BE-B327-4618-B076-E92B91C176BA@home"><namesign.png></span><br class="">Adam<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 21, 2022, at 9:03 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List<br class="">October 21, 2022<br class=""><br class="">Dear SW List -<br class=""><br class="">MOUTH MOVEMENTS FOR MOTORCYCLE<br class=""><br class="">What do you choose?<br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:56B7FDAB-6557-4E1E-8DF8-870BA28B7123"><MOUTH_motorcycle_1.png></span> <span id="cid:355E370A-3F02-4450-9130-0FCB9CD01E05"><MOUTH_motorcycle_2.png></span> <span id="cid:E3F4DCE8-36C5-4C99-9999-669568177F44"><MOUTH_motorcycle_3.png></span> <span id="cid:765841C2-C28D-4528-9E30-645E0440FA83"><MOUTH_motorcycle_4.png></span> <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Do we need to show AIR coming out of mouth? Lips forward? Lips vibrating?<br class=""><br class="">Based on Hector’s video:<br class=""><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0idbOp5RUU" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0idbOp5RUU</a><br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:F84F0D8E-2C39-4735-95A2-DA4AE8149500"><MOUTH_motorcycle_Hector.png></span><br class="">________________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<br class=""><br class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton@signwriting.org<br class=""><br class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist<br class=""><br class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">________________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<br class=""><br class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator <a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a><br class=""><br class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List: <a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a><br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page <a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a><br class=""><br class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages <a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" class="">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></div>________________________________________________
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