<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">For ASL, yes that is correct. The facial expression shows the action of the motor/engine running. So it wouldn’t work for the noun form. :-)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The two signs could be entered in a dictionary with the definition of the word category along with it. Or the facial expression could be given its own definition and word category to explain how it modifies signs. Sort of like prefixes and suffixes in English.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And you are right the beginning of the sentence facial expression works as a topic marker. :-)</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 22, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">October 22, 2022</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">OK! Thank you Adam - for the ASL corrections.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I really learned something and I appreciate it… Adam taught me that the detailed facial expression, which I wrote with air coming out of the mouth and moving lips, that was a VERB, because it shows “how” the motorcycle action takes place, but the simple sign without the facial expression is the basic NOUN. Am I correct to understand this, Adam?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So both entries of MOTORCYCLE could be in the dictionary but it needs to be stated that one is a VERB and the other is a NOUN?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So Hector, thank you for your great video of the mouth movements and I guess your sign was a verb, taking action of really driving the motorcycle, not just the simple machine sitting in our neighbor’s garage, which is a noun…smile…and there really is a neighbor like this - their garage is filled with motorcycles!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here is my new sentence with a Topic Marker (eyebrows up) on both MY and NEIGHBOR - makes sense too -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So how does this look?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:97FFE088-951E-4517-A47B-E22DAA61AEA9"><ASL_Sentence_02.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-------</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" class="">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>>wrote:<br class=""><br class="">The facial expressions on MOTORCYCLE shouldn’t be there unless you are using it as a verb, which isn’t the case with this sentence.<br class=""><br class="">The facial expression with MY seems to be off too. I think either remove it or continue it with NEIGHBOR.<br class=""><br class="">Other than that, it looks good to me.<br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:BC7FF2BE-B327-4618-B076-E92B91C176BA@home"><namesign.png></span><br class="">Adam<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>———</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG" class="">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">SignWriting List<br class="">October 22, 2022<br class=""><br class="">ASL Sentence<br class=""><br class="">Is this good ASL? Would you write it this way? I would love corrections…<br class=""><br class="">And I would love to see this sentence in other sign languages too!<br class=""><br class="">My neighbors have 4 children, 5 trucks and 9 motorcycles. Wow!<br class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:87A42BED-EA74-4B32-8F6A-D8BBDC256904"><ASL_Sentence_01.png></span><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""></div></div>________________________________________________
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