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<p>Hi John,</p>
<p> That's a very interesting project. I didn't know about PTASL
until right now. I'm not working with any DeafBlind at the moment
but have in the past. I'm sure it will be very useful.</p>
<p>Even ASL in and out of ChatGPT would be interesting as it would
also open up a whole world of automatic of inter-lingual
translation for a sign language.</p>
<p>Even though I have ideas of what could be practical, I'm looking
for what can also touch peoples emotions and feel motivated to
use my future app or program and not just say, oh, that's really
cool.</p>
<p>Here are some links to PSASL I found <br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://youtu.be/9GrK3P15TYU">https://youtu.be/9GrK3P15TYU</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.perkins.org/qa-how-pro-tactile-american-sign-language-ptasl-is-changing-the-conversation/">https://www.perkins.org/qa-how-pro-tactile-american-sign-language-ptasl-is-changing-the-conversation/</a><br>
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<p>Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/26/2023 4:50 PM, John Carlson
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<div dir="auto">I am working on a perhaps parallel path of getting
PTASL into chatGPT and PTASL out of ChatGPT. This means
mechanical/sensor/webcam input robotic/actuator/video/image
output.</div>
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<div dir="auto">A goal is to be able to choreograph the Virginia
Reel in DanceWriting, and then dance it in VR</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 26, 2023 at
12:14 PM Amit Moryossef <<a
href="mailto:amitmoryossef@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amitmoryossef@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I think a language-teaching tool is a very
interesting option.
<div>However, one important part of language learning is
"production" - and at the moment we can't look at a
video and automatically transcribe it, so the app
wouldn't be able to give feedback. Of course, this can
be solved given the resources :)</div>
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<div>And while asking someone to transcribe a video is
possible, I feel like it tends more towards "expert"
work.</div>
<div>Any language learning app will need to design for
SignWriting since the "text" is not just linear, and the
line heights are not always predictable.</div>
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<div>Glad to talk about this further if there's a concrete
idea! </div>
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<div>Amit</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 26, 2023 at
6:49 PM Valerie Sutton <<a
href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sutton@signwriting.org</a>>
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<div>May 26, 2023</div>
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<div>Hello everyone, and thank you Suzanne for this
brainstorming idea -</div>
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<div>I can see that Duolingo is a wonderful program
for teaching and learning spoken languages - and I
agree it is a wonderful idea to have such a program
for learning, reading and writing sign languages too
- but the software for sign languages, using
SignWriting, is still under development - but it
will come …</div>
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<div>I immediately thought of <font
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Amit Moryossef’s work
when I read your message, Suzanne, and Amit just
posted the next message - so let’s read what Amit
has to say! See you next message -</font></div>
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<div>Val ;-)</div>
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<div>On May 26, 2023, at 1:37 AM, Suzanne Pach
<<a href="mailto:suzannepach@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Hi everyone,</div>
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<div>Just to add a bit to the brainstorming
:) It is great of course to create new
products, but I wondered, has anyone ever
contacted Duolingo (or a similar app) to
ask if they are interested in adding a
sign language to their curriculum using
SignWriting? I have no idea about the
technical limitations of Duolingo, but I
really like it as a user and it is very
well-known. I just had a little go at
learning Arabic on Duolingo and it starts
with teaching you the alphabet. In a
similar way it could start teaching you
how SignWriting works and next use
SignWriting to teach you the actual sign
language (like ASL). </div>
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<div>Have a nice day!</div>
<div>Suzanne</div>
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May 24, 2023 at 1:06 PM Jonathan Duncan
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All,<br>
<br>
I would like you input
brainstorming, what app for SignWriting
<br>
could I write that would make people
feel good about themselves. Before <br>
I've focused more on what I thought
would be useful, or what I wanted to <br>
have myself for SignWriting. But now I
want to explore abit more on the <br>
emotional side of things. I could be
people in the Deaf community, <br>
their family, friends, employers or any
other group of people related to <br>
SignWriting.<br>
<br>
<br>
Please send me all of your crazy ideas
too.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
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