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    <p>Hi Val,     <br>
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    <p>    Thanks for your comments.  Also thanks to Steve of all of the
      pioneering he has done in the development of tools for
      SignWriting.  Look forward to your private message so that I can
      help you out the bug.</p>
    <p>In the past there have been several projects as regards 3d
      cameras to SignWriting, 3d SignWriting Avatars and GCR, graphics
      to character recognition.  Was any of it finished and usable?  If
      so they would be great to include into new apps.</p>
    <p>So back to my main question, what app in SignWriting could I
      write that would make people feel good about themselves, or find
      enjoyable and not just anther tool?  Before I've focused more on
      what I thought would be useful, or what I wanted to have myself
      for SignWriting.  But now I want to explore abit more on the
      emotional side of things.  It could be for people in the Deaf
      community, their family, friends, employers or any other group of
      people related to SignWriting.</p>
    <p>I know it's a hard question, but look forward to any and all
      answers.</p>
    <p>Thanks</p>
    <p>Jonathan<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/26/2023 11:40 AM, Valerie Sutton
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      <div>Hello everyone, and Jonathan,</div>
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      <div>I will answer your message specifically Jonathan.</div>
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      <div>First we all want to thank Steve Slevinski for giving us his
        tools for software development for SignWriting. Without Steve’s
        tools, we simply would not be where we are today - thank you
        Steve!</div>
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      <div>Second, thank you Jonathan, for using the tools Steve has
        provided, to create other programs. You have done several, but
        the most recent one is an App based on SignPuddle dictionaries:</div>
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      <div style="display: block;">I use this SWSW App all the time, on
        my computer and phones, but I do need your help, Jonathan, to
        fix one tiny bug which I am sure you can help me with - I will
        write to you privately about that issue.</div>
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      <div style="display: block;">But for the future, if you could read
        the messages from Amit, maybe you can get involved with some of
        that work -</div>
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      <div style="display: block;">I think the world is changing fast to
        video, and language transcription from the sign language videos
        and even if you could develop an app that does not actually do
        the transcription itself, but grabs SignWriting literature
        written in vertical columns and somehow connects it to videos -
        anything along the lines of getting videos and then the
        SignWriting that is related would be a blessing -</div>
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      <div style="display: block;">There are already many videos with
        SignWriting transcription from Brazil and then Amit just showed
        us Adam Frost’s video in ASL with transcription - and although
        that is highly technical work, it is the beginning towards an
        easier time relating videos with the signwritten equivalent</div>
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      <div style="display: block;">Val ;-)</div>
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            <div>On May 24, 2023, at 4:06 AM, Jonathan Duncan
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              <div>Hi All,<br>
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                    I would like you input brainstorming, what app for
                SignWriting could I write that would make people feel
                good about themselves.  Before I've focused more on what
                I thought would be useful, or what I wanted to have
                myself for SignWriting.  But now I want to explore abit
                more on the emotional side of things.  I could be people
                in the Deaf community, their family, friends, employers
                or any other group of people related to SignWriting.<br>
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                Please send me all of your crazy ideas too.<br>
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                Thanks<br>
                <br>
                Jonathan<br>
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