<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">SignWriting List<div>May 27, 2023</div><div><br></div><div>Hi Jonathan!</div><div>Thank you for this message. I wish you, and everyone, the best developing new SW projects.</div><div><br></div><div>I look forward to reading everyone's messages about those new developments. Then I can have the joy of telling everyone about the new projects!</div><div><br></div><div>I will write to you privately now about the SWSW app.</div><div><br></div><div>And here in the US we have a holiday weekend called “Memorial Day”. Have a wonderful weekend, everyone!</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>---------<br>
<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 27, 2023, at 5:32 AM, Jonathan Duncan <joyoduncan@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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<div><p>Hi Val, <br>
</p><p> Thanks for your comments. Also thanks to Steve of all of the
pioneering he has done in the development of tools for
SignWriting. Look forward to your private message so that I can
help you out the bug.</p><p>In the past there have been several projects as regards 3d
cameras to SignWriting, 3d SignWriting Avatars and GCR, graphics
to character recognition. Was any of it finished and usable? If
so they would be great to include into new apps.</p><p>So back to my main question, what app in SignWriting could I
write that would make people feel good about themselves, or find
enjoyable and not just anther tool? Before I've focused more on
what I thought would be useful, or what I wanted to have myself
for SignWriting. But now I want to explore abit more on the
emotional side of things. It could be for people in the Deaf
community, their family, friends, employers or any other group of
people related to SignWriting.</p><p>I know it's a hard question, but look forward to any and all
answers.</p><p>Thanks</p><p>Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/26/2023 11:40 AM, Valerie Sutton
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<div>Hello everyone, and Jonathan,</div>
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<div>I will answer your message specifically Jonathan.</div>
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<div>First we all want to thank Steve Slevinski for giving us his
tools for software development for SignWriting. Without Steve’s
tools, we simply would not be where we are today - thank you
Steve!</div>
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<div>Second, thank you Jonathan, for using the tools Steve has
provided, to create other programs. You have done several, but
the most recent one is an App based on SignPuddle dictionaries:</div>
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<div style="display: block;">I use this SWSW App all the time, on
my computer and phones, but I do need your help, Jonathan, to
fix one tiny bug which I am sure you can help me with - I will
write to you privately about that issue.</div>
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<div style="display: block;">But for the future, if you could read
the messages from Amit, maybe you can get involved with some of
that work -</div>
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<div style="display: block;">I think the world is changing fast to
video, and language transcription from the sign language videos
and even if you could develop an app that does not actually do
the transcription itself, but grabs SignWriting literature
written in vertical columns and somehow connects it to videos -
anything along the lines of getting videos and then the
SignWriting that is related would be a blessing -</div>
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<div style="display: block;">There are already many videos with
SignWriting transcription from Brazil and then Amit just showed
us Adam Frost’s video in ASL with transcription - and although
that is highly technical work, it is the beginning towards an
easier time relating videos with the signwritten equivalent</div>
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<div style="display: block;">Val ;-)</div>
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<div>On May 24, 2023, at 4:06 AM, Jonathan Duncan
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joyoduncan@gmail.com"><joyoduncan@gmail.com></a> wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi All,<br>
<br>
I would like you input brainstorming, what app for
SignWriting could I write that would make people feel
good about themselves. Before I've focused more on what
I thought would be useful, or what I wanted to have
myself for SignWriting. But now I want to explore abit
more on the emotional side of things. I could be people
in the Deaf community, their family, friends, employers
or any other group of people related to SignWriting.<br>
<br>
<br>
Please send me all of your crazy ideas too.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
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