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<p>I think SignWriting should be able to write Protactile ASL. Can
you think of any situations where it would be extremely difficult
to write?</p>
<p>Yes, it would have to be more then an Avatar for a deaf-blind,
you're right a robot would be more like it.</p>
<p>Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/29/2023 7:22 PM, John Carlson
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<div dir="auto">Do we have a version of SignWriting for Protactile
ASL?</div>
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<div dir="auto">I think we need SignWriting into some kind of
motion code, perhaps through robotic actuators.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Imagine Boston Dynamics doing a sign language
demonstration.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I’m way beyond dialog with an AI and typical
multicast.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Think communication chain reaction, tree
reactions, fluid reaction, chemical reaction, gas reaction.
The Big Bang of communication starting everywhere in the
universe.</div>
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<div dir="auto">John </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 5:15
PM Jonathan Duncan <<a href="mailto:joyoduncan@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">joyoduncan@gmail.com</a>>
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<p>Hi John and Joseph, <br>
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<p> I think what would be useful first would be a
ChatGPT prompt that could interpret SignWriting into
BVH. Then we could go from SignWriting to avatars.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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<p>Jonathan<br>
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<div>On 5/29/2023 12:16 PM, Joseph D Williams wrote:<br>
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<li style="margin-left:0in">Show me the natural
semantic metalanguage primes in Pro-tactile
American Sign Language with motions described as
BVH (Biovision Hierarchy).</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OK, BVH gives a hierarchy of
actuators and data for each actuator at some fixed
time interval. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For example, one set of data
could be the rotation of a wrist joint over some
time interval at some fixed sample times. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now all you need to do is
describe where the joint position and rotation at
the start of the motion, what happens during the
motion and where and when that motion is complete.
Next, since other elements of the hand may change
position during the motion we can deal with other
elements of the hand. For instance, in this motion
the index finger second joint bends from relaxed to
straight to 90 degrees to straight then relaxed
during the motion. In other words, the right hand
index finger second joint does some pitch animation.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Joe</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">John
Carlson</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 29, 2023 5:30 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:david@universiti.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">David
Kaplan</a>; <a
href="mailto:SW-L@listserv.valenciacollege.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>;
<a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">X3D
Graphics public mailing list</a>; <a
href="mailto:semantics-public@web3d.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">X3D
Semantic Web Working Group</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[x3d-public] PTASL NSM primes in
BVH—Help</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Getting this to work would be a
great step forward for accessibility, HAnim, and X3D
semantics.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ChatGPT prompt:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Show me the natural semantic
metalanguage primes in Pro-tactile American Sign
Language with motions described as BVH (Biovision
Hierarchy).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyone? I can give general
English descriptions of PTASL of each prime in
English (or you can retrieve it yourself).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John</p>
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